SKY+

At 23:17:10 on 09/09/2006, loz delighted uk.media.tv.sky by announcing:


"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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Why should I be excluded from recording digitally?

Why should I be excluded from broadband greater than 1Mb?

Why should I be excluded from Faberge eggs? Why, if the people only
knew, there would be an outcry.

The government has decreed that we will all transition to Digital TV.

I am not aware that Tony Blair, nor his replacement, has decreed we
should all have Faberge eggs.

Neither have they decreed that we should all have Sky+.

At 23:20:12 on 09/09/2006, loz delighted uk.media.tv.sky by announcing:

Why, when it is government policy to transition to digital TV,
should 25% of the population have paying Sky £10 a month as their
only option for digital recordings, when the other 75% do not?

You can record digital channels perfectly adequately with other
equipment if you choose to.

Not digitally, with the quality and ease of use of a PVR.

But you still haven't told us why you want to do this, other than the
fact that you want it because everyone else has it.

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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They do not record a digital signal at all. They record an analog one.
They only accept an analog input, and only record it in analog.

Does your television display a digital signal? Oh no it doesn't, it
only displays an analogue one. It only accepts an analogue input, and
it only displays it in analogue.

Do you know nothing about Sky HD and HDMI connections?
Pure digital, all the way.

Except of course you would have to pay Sky £10 a month to record BBC HD on
it...

(note earlier, I said I had Sky HD)

Loz

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 23:23:24 +0100, "loz"
wrote:

Not digitally.

A DVD recorder is digital. An offboard PVR like TiVo is digital.

But, doesn't accept a digital signal
So we have multiple AD conversions to degenerate the signal.
In the digital age, when bitstream recorders are widely available, why
should I have to use anything else?
People who can receive DTT don't have to

Loz

"Alex" wrote in message
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Do VCRs record a digital signal then?
More than adequately, yes.

They do not record a digital signal at all. They record an analog one.

The same analog one that your TV accepts, whether it's from the Sky box
or the recorder. If the quality's crap perhaps you need a better cable
or recording device.

My TV also accepts a digital signal.
Which my SkyHD box outputs.

You need to get up to date with modern technology and stop talking about
VCRs

Loz

"Alex" wrote in message
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VCRs do not make a bitstream recording as has been explained several
times.
You do not need to make a bitstream recording to be able to record
something. That is only one way of doing so.

And, indeed, many manufacturers - of both content and equipment - are
trying to restrict or eliminate the capability of doing so.

What? Who?

Are you saying Sky are trying to eliminate Sky+????
Sky+ is a bitstream recorder, as is SkyHD, as is every DTT PVR.
Suddenly, the same people who introduced them are now trying to eliminate
them are they?

Sounds like you should be warning people against Sky+, not recommending it
then

Loz

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 23:14:51 +0100, "loz"
wrote:

But DTT PVR "convenience foods" *are* free.
It is only Sky who charge for convenience.

And everyone is free to make the choice that suits them.
What's wrong with that?

I don't know. You were the one that raised convenience as a factor of Sky+,
not me.
But clearly Sky+ convenience comes at a price.

But to be dropped in 6 years though isn't it?
Why do they charge it now then?

Loz

"Alex" wrote in message
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I am not aware that Tony Blair, nor his replacement, has decreed we
should all have Faberge eggs.

Neither have they decreed that we should all have Sky+.

No, nor would they ever recommend a single brand.
Not even Tony and Rupert could get that one through parliment.
But they have recognised the need for digital PVRs.

Loz

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 23:20:12 +0100, "loz"
wrote:

The government recognises that for many the complexity of setting up
external recorders and scheduling recording is not as easy as it is using
a
PVR. Clearly they are not so backward thinking or selfish as you.

The Government recognises that Tesco Value Sausage Rolls do not taste
as nice as Tesco Finest Premium Sausage Rolls. What are they going to
do, make the cheaper option illegal?

But they do not discuss the difference between Tesco Value Sausage Rolls and
Tesco Finest Premium Sausage Rolls in parliment.
But they do discuss the difference between VCRs and digital PVRs and
recognise that they need to be widely available as part of the digital
transition

Loz

"Alex" wrote in message
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Not digitally, with the quality and ease of use of a PVR.

But you still haven't told us why you want to do this, other than the
fact that you want it because everyone else has it.

Because it is higher quality and easier to use - as I just said, and as has
been said repeatedly throughout this thread.

I already have it.

That doesn't mean I agree with the Sky+ charges though

Loz