SKY+

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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Why should I be *excluded* from recording digitally?
The means of recording is not relevant. The fact that you CAN easily
record, in a multiplicity of ways, is, and is the answer to your
point.

Yet the government recognises that this must be addressed in the transition
to digital TV.
The government recognises that for many the complexity of setting up
external recorders and scheduling recording is not as easy as it is using a
PVR.
Clearly they are not so backward thinking or selfish as you.

Why, when it is government policy to transition to digital TV, should 25%
of
the population have paying Sky £10 a month as their only option for
digital
recordings, when the other 75% do not?

You can record digital channels perfectly adequately with other
equipment if you choose to.

Not digitally, with the quality and ease of use of a PVR.

Loz

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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Do you live in some unusual part of the Welsh valleys where powerful
magnetic mountains render VCRs inoperable?

Do VCRs record a digital signal then?
More than adequately, yes.

They do not record a digital signal at all. They record an analog one.
They only accept an analog input, and only record it in analog.

Loz

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 20:40:04 +0100, "loz"
wrote:

Why should 25% of the country have to pay £10 a month to record digital
TV,
just because of their postcode?

THEY DO NOT HAVE TO. THEY CAN RECORD IT WITH A VCR, OR A DVD RECORDER,
OR SOMETHING ELSE!

Not digitally.

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:17:03 GMT, Chris Leuty
wrote:

The other option is to wait. The overwhelming majority of that 25% will,
within 6 years or so, get DTT and be able to use whatever recording
technology is available by then.

By which time Sky+ will almost certainly be free for everyone anyway.

Why?

And if then, why not now?

Loz

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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I would like to have a 40" HD LCD TV that I cannot afford, I don't have a
choice on the price, but I have a choice NOT to buy one.
Nonsense. You're entitled to that TV for free. Why should you have to
pay to watch digital TV in its proper format? It's quite disgraceful.

I don't expect to be provided a TV for free.
I don't expect to be provided a Digital PVR for free.
But having paid for them, I expect both to function without paying any
additional fees.
Is that so unreasonable?
If I lived in another part of the country, my expectation would be met.

Loz

Mike wrote:

It is sold over the counter for a list price with no requirement for
any sort of contract etc.
Your point being? If you HAD to take out a contract then you'd just
moan all the more.

The point being that the box should work without a contract as there
is no contract needed to buy one.


Like a mobile phone?

The phone does work without a contract.

Provision of phone service can be compared with provision of programme
content on satellite, and both are available from numerous providers
at levels of cost from free to very expensive.

The Sky+ recording function however is not a service. It is a monopoly
fee only.

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UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
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Clueless2 wrote:

Everyone tries to keep comparing Sky+ to mobile phones, but I think they
get it wrong.

So basically you are stating that everyone is wrong and your are correct.

No, everyone else is not wrong. For example, I'm not wrong either.

The only people who are wrong are those who think that the Sky+
payment is for some sort of service provision. It is not.

As an aside, it is completely staggering that so many people are
making this mistake.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
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No monies return'd. ;-)

Alex wrote:

recording and playback of subtitles and audio
description,

This may be of use to the deaf or blind, but not to me.

Let them eat cake.

The same cake as C4/C5 viewers who want to record those channels?

Who's preventing them doing so?

Nothing, as long as they eat the cake.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Alex wrote:

Why should I be excluded from broadband greater than 1Mb? That's the
way the cookie crumbles. Life ain't always fair.

You aren't excluded from this, unless your phone line is too long in
which case it is hardly anyone's fault. You have a wide choice of ISPs
at hugely varying prices from free to quite expensive. You can buy any
PC you want and use it with any ISP.

The same does not apply to the Sky+.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Alex wrote:

Payment to anyone in order to record FTA or FTV channels CANNOT be
justified under any circumstances.

It can as long as you have the option to choose to pay it or not.

And has been explained, many do not have the choice when it comes to
C4 and C5.

And, as has been explained but you seem unable to comprehend, those
people have the choice of using many other methods to record a very
acceptable copy over the scart.

That is not good enough.

There is no reason why anyone should have to pay Sky in order to
record non-Sky channels on a box they have bought outright.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)