HD ready sets 'a waste of money'

On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:22:40 GMT, "steeler" wrote:


"Sofa - Spud" wrote in message
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Ed wrote:
Lovely scaremongering article in the Daily/Sunday Mail that my mother
in law brought around on Sunday, basically telling everyone who's
bought an HD ready TV has wasted their money as they are, with one or
two exceptions, only capable of 700 lines resolution when 'true' HD is
over 1000.

Dixons helpfully commented "No one can really tell the difference
between 700 and 1000 lines"

We were in Comet on saturday and saw the giant flatscreen "HD ready"
tvs on sale - £2299 - they showed a promo film of a US airshow in
vivid colour , a C130 Hercules taking off with rocket assist,
brilliant!!

Well the demos would be pretty **** if they did not look amazing.


The demos I've seen in shops don't even look very good to me anyway.
They've all been in dodgy 25 fields/sec after the deinterlacing being
done by blending two fields together for each frame, making everything
looks horrible and jerky. Maybe soon someone will give them a decent
DVD to shove in it instead, because at the moment, I don't see why
anyone would want to buy something that produces such a
terrible-looking picture as the shops down here in the S.W. are
showing.

In uk.media.tv.misc on Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Ed Chilada wrote :

What you are overlooking is that you will need a screen 7 feet wide
before you will need a HD TV, so even on a 40" TV you are
wasting your money. You simply will not be able to see the extra
definitioin.

Rubbish, utter rubbish. You go into a branch of Comet or Currys and
have a look at their HD demos on 42" and even 37" screens. They're
awesome.

Awesomely expensive.
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Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

Indeed most people wont be able to see the extra definition unless
they sit 2 feet from the box. Mind you your neighbours will be impressed
when you tell them you have a HDTV and that is the important thing.

A standard 4:3 set is as good as it gets, the recent 'improvements'
are a waste of money, ideas dreams up to push up the profits
of Dixon's ,Curry's and the like.

High definition letterboxes - what a laaaarrrrf.


Perhaps it's your eyes. The difference is blindingly obvious to me.

Androo

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Dom Robinson wrote:
You actually expect analogue to be switched off by 2012? When did the
government ever get anything done on time? Think 2020 at the earliest, I'll
put a bet on that.

How much?

NB I'm old enough to remember decimalisation. On time. And the transfer to
'new money' was completed for most people within the first week instead of the
months made available by the government.
The professional moaners will do their best to scupper it and there will be
well-publicised individuals refusing to buy digital and turning their analogue
machines on whilst they phone up the Queen to complain about the bad
reception. But most people will get on with it and it will all work.

And unscrupulous cowboys (not the government) will make a killing.

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Yeah, you're right there. I recall demos with colourful hot-air balloons (and they don't move so fast!), birds flying across a mainly static (but hugely detailed) landscape, etc..

Water gently trickling down a stream, clouds drifting...

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On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 00:24:12 GMT, "steeler" wrote:


"Ed Chilada" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:21:40 GMT, "steeler" wrote:

but not a reason to need a 1080 TV - subject of this thread.

Eh? The games themselves can output 1080. 'i' for the 360, 'p' for the
PS3. Perhaps a very nice way to show off that 1080 resolution screen.

http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-x-1985-x-x-x


The specs on that page must be old. Xbox360 was slated to have digital HD
support upto 1080 and a HD-DVD drive. Then the HD-DVD was to be an
optional
extra. The final product gives a composite HDTV output with a max
resolution of 720.

A current MS site:

http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/hardware/x...engraphics.htm

"All games are capable of running at 576i (that's the resolution of
your standard definition TV), 576p, 720p, and 1080i, so no matter what
your TV supports, Xbox 360 has you covered."

Perhaps capable - no games currently out run higher than 720. I call
bull**** on MS. They killed any chance of developers supporting any higher
resolutions when they limited disc size to 9gb

Alex Buell wrote:

What more d'you expect from the likes of chav-friendly outlets such as
Dixons?

Do you mean outlets which exploit the poor and technically challeged?
Buy online. Always.

On 4 Apr 2006 07:05:31 -0700 waved a wand and
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What more d'you expect from the likes of chav-friendly outlets such as
Dixons?

Do you mean outlets which exploit the poor and technically challeged?
Buy online. Always.

Indeed I always do. Some of my best things came from online stores
and from knowing exactly what I wanted.

Pity I can't do the same thing with women...

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On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:00:33 GMT "steeler" waved a
wand and this message magically appeared:

"All games are capable of running at 576i (that's the resolution of
your standard definition TV), 576p, 720p, and 1080i, so no matter what
your TV supports, Xbox 360 has you covered."

Perhaps capable - no games currently out run higher than 720. I call
bull**** on MS. They killed any chance of developers supporting any higher
resolutions when they limited disc size to 9gb

That's why they're working on two new formats of DVDs: Blu-Ray and
HD-DVD. Blu-Ray offers 50GB, whilst HD-DVD offers a somewhat lame
25GB of space.

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"Ed Chilada" wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 00:24:12 GMT, "steeler" wrote:


"Ed Chilada" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:21:40 GMT, "steeler" wrote:

but not a reason to need a 1080 TV - subject of this thread.

Eh? The games themselves can output 1080. 'i' for the 360, 'p' for the
PS3. Perhaps a very nice way to show off that 1080 resolution screen.

http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-x-1985-x-x-x


The specs on that page must be old. Xbox360 was slated to have digital HD
support upto 1080 and a HD-DVD drive. Then the HD-DVD was to be an
optional
extra. The final product gives a composite HDTV output with a max
resolution of 720.

A current MS site:

http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/hardware/x...engraphics.htm

"All games are capable of running at 576i (that's the resolution of
your standard definition TV), 576p, 720p, and 1080i, so no matter what
your TV supports, Xbox 360 has you covered."

Perhaps capable - no games currently out run higher than 720. I call
bull**** on MS. They killed any chance of developers supporting any higher
resolutions when they limited disc size to 9gb



I've got some 360 games that say they support 1080i on the box,

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