DAB Performance of different makes?

In article , Nobody
Here wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:

Actually, I emailed you yesterday with a request for some information
that's important to something I'm currently doing. So, if I'm going to
provide you with a load of information then I think it's only fair
that you provide me with the information that you've said you've
already got and that I need.

Once you've sent me the info I'll reply to the rest of your post.

Wow, another example of absolutely unbelievable arrogance. You really
do understand how to get the best from people, don't you?

Apparently so. :-) Indeed I was so impressed when I read the above that I
deleted the email I had just written to send to Steve regarding the
questions he'd asked me.

Slainte,

Jim

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On 26 Oct, wrote:
In article .com,
wrote:

In fact Steve Green does write for a hi-fi mag. Every month. It's an
interesting read as well. If Steve isn't going to tell you which mag
then I won't either, but it's one of the upmarket, intelligent ones.

From what has been said, I am now wondering if the mag in question is "Hi
Fi World". If so, I must admit I gave up reading it some time ago for
reasons that would not have led me to regard it as "one of the upmarket,
intelligent ones" at the time. Too many mistakes and misleading technical
'explanations', I'm afraid.

However from what you say it sounds like it has improved a fair bit, so
I may give it another go.

Slainte,

Jim

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In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
But surely you would have known that no matter how good the receiver
it couldn't get round the problems of a seriously flawed system?

Do you have a problem reading, or something? I gave perfectly valid
reasons for buying it. I've just re-read exactly what I wrote
originally. Re-read it yourself. That's why I bought it. Another reason
was that I felt I should own a DAB portable radio so that I could
comment from experience. If you've not noticed, I write a website about
digital radio.

But rubbished Jim Lesurf's interest in the RF performance of various makes?

David, if you're just intent on wasting my time,

Why is anyone commenting on your posts wasting your time?

then I'm going to have to put you in my killfile.

Oh dear. That really bothers me. If I wanted to killfile someone I'd not
find the need to tell the world.

You do enjoy winding me up, and it's people like that that I put in the
killfile.

If you get wound up that's your problem.

Actually, fk it, I'll put you in now to save reading your nonsense.

See ya.

Well. you won't, will you?

*plonk*

Plonker.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:05:30 GMT, DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Nobody Here wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:59:55 +0100, :::Jerry:::: wrote:

"Nobody Here" wrote in message
...
Jerry:::: wrote:

"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
...
Ian wrote:
Oh you do TV as well! ;-) This is so not the right group to
debate in.


This is a thread to debate the performance of different makes of
DAB receivers, no?


Yes, but it in a group that's meant for digital television....

And Stevie-boy doesn't understand the meaning of the word "debate"
anyway.


Are you suggesting that he is nothing but a rant-boy?! :~)

Well, I dunno, this has been a pretty long thread - perhaps I was
wrong about the debating, 'coz he obviously likes a mass debate :~)


Look, I've put you in my killfile. Get the message. If you continue to
try and circumvent my killfile filter then I will have no other option
than to send a short email to .

Eh? I ain't done nothing, lad. Changed nothing, renamed nothing, nada.
Why dou you think I'd bother, you're not really killfiling me anyway.

....

Oh, just looked at the headers generated by the machines I post from,
sorry, the from address is different, so I guess you used that. I'll
fix them so they're all the same for you. Which one would you like?
Oh well, I'll make them all the same as this one. Can't remember
which one I last posted from, so I don't know if you'll get this
or not. You'll have to wait till I reboot into the other OS on my
laptop for one of them - better hope I remember, eh?

Do you *really* think will give a **** because you
don't like me? You're not *that* important, even if you are a bit
challenged at setting up filters.

--
Nobby

DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:

Look, I've put you in my killfile. Get the message.

That sounds like a good idea, after all you just spout the same tedious
crap over and over again, you've said it plenty times, you don't like
DAB, lucky you, but we've got the message.

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:06:13 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , DAB sounds worse
than FM wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:
[snip]


Since you have now said the above I can reconfirm that you are jumping
to the wrong conclusion, and misunderstanding what I have been saying.


As I said previously, I feel your original post was ambiguously worded,
so try and accept some responsibility for what you've written rather
than blaming me for mis-interpreting somethign that you've written which
WAS ambiguous. If that is okay with you?

I accept that is what you feel.

Does anyone else think that what I have been saying was unclear and
"ambiguously worded"? My impression thus far is that others have understood
what I have written, but maybe I am wrong...

Seemed pretty clear to me. I've no personal experience with DAB, but
every other type of receiver I've ever used is variable in performance
from one model to another. Even digital boxes vary depending on the
skill of the software implementation for the same codec. Or I suspect
more often depending on the resources and expense put into the
original software development. In any case, the BER that's going to
partly determine the output depends on the quality of the RF electronics
too, so in my mind there's a whole host of issues that'll determine the
quality of the receiver as a complete system. This is certainly the
case with STBs, and I see no reason for it to be different with DAB
receivers.

Of course, to some umm, plonkers (given revent events) there is only one
issue that matters, which is why in my view his obsession is largely
irrelevant.

--
Nobby

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:10:32 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Nobody
Here wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:

Actually, I emailed you yesterday with a request for some information
that's important to something I'm currently doing. So, if I'm going to
provide you with a load of information then I think it's only fair
that you provide me with the information that you've said you've
already got and that I need.

Once you've sent me the info I'll reply to the rest of your post.

Wow, another example of absolutely unbelievable arrogance. You really
do understand how to get the best from people, don't you?

Apparently so. :-) Indeed I was so impressed when I read the above that I
deleted the email I had just written to send to Steve regarding the
questions he'd asked me.

LOL. I bet that happens a lot :-)

--
Nobby

Jim Lesurf wrote:

snip

Does anyone else think that what I have been saying was unclear and
"ambiguously worded"?

*****

I for one don't.

I think Steve forced a misinterpretation on it because of his
hypersensitivity about an issue which has unfortunately led him to
inhabit a Manichaean universe.

André Coutanche

Nobody Here wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:10:32 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article ,
Nobody Here wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:

Actually, I emailed you yesterday with a request for some
information that's important to something I'm currently doing. So,
if I'm going to provide you with a load of information then I
think it's only fair that you provide me with the information that
you've said you've already got and that I need.

Once you've sent me the info I'll reply to the rest of your post.

Wow, another example of absolutely unbelievable arrogance. You
really do understand how to get the best from people, don't you?

Apparently so. :-) Indeed I was so impressed when I read the above
that I deleted the email I had just written to send to Steve
regarding the questions he'd asked me.

LOL. I bet that happens a lot :-)


I have already put you in my killfile twice. If you try to circumvent my
killfile filter again I *will* send an abuse report to .

*plonk* (for the 3rd time)


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on its radio stations on DAB, Freeview, satellite and cable:
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Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article ,
Nobody Here wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:

Actually, I emailed you yesterday with a request for some
information that's important to something I'm currently doing. So,
if I'm going to provide you with a load of information then I think
it's only fair that you provide me with the information that you've
said you've already got and that I need.

Once you've sent me the info I'll reply to the rest of your post.

Wow, another example of absolutely unbelievable arrogance. You
really do understand how to get the best from people, don't you?

Apparently so. :-) Indeed I was so impressed when I read the above
that I deleted the email I had just written to send to Steve
regarding the questions he'd asked me.


Congratulations, Jim. Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. I can see that
you really want to see the services improve for the general public.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

Please sign the petition asking the BBC to provide better audio quality
on its radio stations on DAB, Freeview, satellite and cable:
http://tinyurl.com/a68e4