Hurry, donate your obsolite non-DAB radios to Africa

Paul D.Smith wrote:
If MP2 the form used to transmit DAB?


Yes.


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I have not intention of paying over £100
You can get a set for around half that price.

per set to replace them with something worse than medium wave.
DAB is nothing like medium wave, it doesn't fade, it doesn't suffer from
foreign broadcasts and interference in the evenings. It isn't as good as FM
(in a good signal area, on a decent tuner) in its present form, only because
the broadcasters are using too little bandwidth.

I agree that its not time to dump FM radio's yet (we are far from that day
IMO) first DAB needs much more bandwidth allocated to it, so that DAB can
perform like it was intended to. Then the coverage needs to be improved to
ensure it can be received reliably on set-top telescopic aerials and in the
car. Reception is pathetic in some areas. These issues need addressing
before anyone suggests we should dump FM.

Sven wrote:
"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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I have not intention of paying over £100
You can get a set for around half that price.

per set to replace them with something worse than medium wave.
DAB is nothing like medium wave,


It doesn't sound much better, either.


it doesn't fade, it doesn't suffer
from foreign broadcasts and interference in the evenings. It isn't as
good as FM (in a good signal area, on a decent tuner) in its present
form, only because the broadcasters are using too little bandwidth.


Correct.


I agree that its not time to dump FM radio's yet (we are far from
that day IMO) first DAB needs much more bandwidth allocated to it, so
that DAB can perform like it was intended to.


DAB is going to get more bandwidth. Ofcom have already decided they're
giving DAB 5 more Band III channels. And then that'll be it. And there
is absolutely no intention to increase the bit rates of the commercial
radio stations. Quite the opposite in fact, because the commercial radio
groups have lobbied Ofcom to allow them to use 112kbps instead of the
current minimum bit rate of 128kbps. And they're going to get their way.

The BBC say they want to increase the bit rates of their national
stations. But there will only be 2 new national multiplexes, and the
commercial radio groups will win the multiplex operator licences for
these national muxes, and they are vehemently opposed to the BBC getting
a single bit per second of additional capacity, and it will be very easy
for them to block the BBC from getting any more capacity.

The audio quality will never be good on music stations on DAB unless you
listen to Radio 3.


Then the coverage
needs to be improved to ensure it can be received reliably on set-top
telescopic aerials and in the car. Reception is pathetic in some
areas. These issues need addressing before anyone suggests we should
dump FM.


FM won't be dumped for probably 12 - 15 years, but the bit rates will
not be increased. Ofcom are not the kind of regulator to enforce
improvement in quality, and the commercial radio groups will not
increase their bit rates voluntarily. What you get now is either better
than what it will be in the future, or at best the same. The only
direction the bit rates are going is down, not up.


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1. FM radios are not obsolete, they are current.
2. Why should I donate an FM radio to Africa, I suspect that most places
in Africa have no FM signal anyway?
3. African countries need to get their own house in order and stop
having civil wars.
Regards Mike.

In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/digitalradio/news/amnesty.shtml

All my FM radios sound far better than my DAB radios, so why on earth
would they be obsolete?

It specifically mentioned FM/MW/LW/SW and battery operated - not just FM.
And since FM is poor for long distance reception, it's unlikely to be used
much except in large towns where mains would be available.

Here's a couple of audio samples for you to listen to to see which is
the obsolete system out of DAB and FM (both recorded simultaneously on
21st June 2005):

How to turn what could be an interesting thread into your usual rant.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/digitalradio/news/amnesty.shtml

All my FM radios sound far better than my DAB radios, so why on earth
would they be obsolete?

It specifically mentioned FM/MW/LW/SW and battery operated - not just
FM. And since FM is poor for long distance reception, it's unlikely
to be used much except in large towns where mains would be available.


Look at the thread title: "obsolite [sic] non-DAB radios". What
percentage of non-DAB radios don't have FM on them?


Here's a couple of audio samples for you to listen to to see which is
the obsolete system out of DAB and FM (both recorded simultaneously
on 21st June 2005):

How to turn what could be an interesting thread into your usual rant.


What would be interesting about the BBC Digital Radio Department's
efforts to shift more DAB radios by taking advantage of the general
public's sympathy for Africa? And at the same time they're making out
that non-DAB radios are so worthless that you can just give them away.


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OldBill wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:

Sven wrote:

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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"Graham" wrote in message
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I have not intention of paying over £100


You can get a set for around half that price.


I wouldn't mind a small DAB radio and cost isn't really a issue but they
all look ugly and old-fashioned.
Modern hi-tech gadget and they make it look like something from the
1960s. Why is that?

There is the "Bug" or whatever it's called. The one that was designed by Wayne
Hemingway.

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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Sven wrote:

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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"Graham" wrote in message
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/digitalradio/news/amnesty.shtml


I have not intention of paying over £100

You can get a set for around half that price.


I wouldn't mind a small DAB radio and cost isn't really a issue but they
all look ugly and old-fashioned.
Modern hi-tech gadget and they make it look like something from the
1960s. Why is that?

"Mark Tranchant" wrote in message
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Mark Tranchant wrote:
Turner:
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*blush* Constable, of course...

That wasn't very PC was it!

In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
All my FM radios sound far better than my DAB radios, so why on earth
would they be obsolete?

It specifically mentioned FM/MW/LW/SW and battery operated - not just
FM. And since FM is poor for long distance reception, it's unlikely
to be used much except in large towns where mains would be available.


Look at the thread title: "obsolite [sic] non-DAB radios". What
percentage of non-DAB radios don't have FM on them?

Vastly more than FM only.

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