ITV Wales / West - Planned DTT Engineering Work - Starting Monday 11 July

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oscaretta*the*cat wrote:

You seem to know a lot about ITV, I think I am on Winter Hill but could
possibly being an non techie on such matters be pointing the other way
to Mendip? I am very high up!


Certainly not Mendip which is down in Somerset. Most likely Winter Hill or
possibly Storeton (relay of Winter Hill)?

ITV/s on Mux 2?? has disappeared, although signal strength is ok, is this
the work ongoing or has the Philips STB on the wane.
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I've just had a (quick) look through recent posts in here and in the Digital
Spy (terrestrial) forum and can't see signs of any widespread issues
regarding either of those TX's. An indoor aerial is rarely reliable for
DTT although some lucky people in strong signal areas have few if any
problems. Can you maybe borrow a box from someone to see if that works any
better? An appropriate *outdoor* aerial is usually best for consistently
good DTT reception.

Should I be worried?

Only if you want to receive any of those Mux 2 channels.

Good luck.
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In ,
oscaretta*the*cat wrote:

You seem to know a lot about ITV, I think I am on Winter Hill but could
possibly being an non techie on such matters be pointing the other way
to Mendip? I am very high up!


Certainly not Mendip which is down in Somerset. Most likely Winter Hill
or possibly Storeton (relay of Winter Hill)?

Might be Winter Hill B as a changed of UHF number has vastly improved the
signal strength from a 2 for a 3.5

ITV/s on Mux 2?? has disappeared, although signal strength is ok, is
this
the work ongoing or has the Philips STB on the wane.
[snip]

I've just had a (quick) look through recent posts in here and in the
Digital Spy (terrestrial) forum and can't see signs of any widespread
issues regarding either of those TX's. An indoor aerial is rarely
reliable for DTT although some lucky people in strong signal areas have
few if any problems. Can you maybe borrow a box from someone to see if
that works any better? An appropriate *outdoor* aerial is usually best
for consistently good DTT reception.


Funny that up till Sat all channels were fine?

Should I be worried?

Only if you want to receive any of those Mux 2 channels.

Good luck.

Tar for advice
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oscaretta*the*cat wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message

I don't believe it would be possible for you to get any signal from
Mendip, it's over 100 miles south of you.

Is it really? told you I had no sense of direction. Must be Winter Hill
then.

Moel-y-Parc ? 25ish miles south west of Liverpool.


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oscaretta*the*cat wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message

I don't believe it would be possible for you to get any signal from
Mendip, it's over 100 miles south of you.

Is it really? told you I had no sense of direction. Must be Winter Hill
then.

Moel-y-Parc ? 25ish miles south west of Liverpool.


Funny enough I've changed the UHF Number and got the best ever signal
strength, but still no ITV chnanles, hey ho try a process of elimation now.

Could it be Emly Moor, or is that too far?


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oscaretta*the*cat wrote:

Funny enough I've changed the UHF Number and got the best ever signal
strength, but still no ITV chnanles, hey ho try a process of elimation now.

Could it be Emly Moor, or is that too far?

Wrong side of the Pennies. What local news do you get on BBC 1 (have a look at
1:30, 6:30, or 10:25pm)

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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oscaretta*the*cat wrote:

Funny enough I've changed the UHF Number and got the best ever signal
strength, but still no ITV chnanles, hey ho try a process of elimation
now.

Could it be Emly Moor, or is that too far?

Wrong side of the Pennies. What local news do you get on BBC 1 (have a
look at 1:30, 6:30, or 10:25pm)

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No definatley Granda/North West News, Winter Hill B?


Mark
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oscaretta*the*cat wrote:

Could it be Emly Moor, or is that too far?

Wrong side of the Pennies. What local news do you get on BBC 1 (have a
look at 1:30, 6:30, or 10:25pm)

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No definatley Granda/North West News, Winter Hill B?

If it's Granada then it will only be Winter Hill or one of its relays. In
Liverpool it's possible it might be Storeton, but no other relay.

Winter Hill B only transmits Muxes C and D. ITV-1, 2, 3, C4, and E4 (but NOT E4+1)
are on Mux 2.

See
http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/tx_n.html


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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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oscaretta*the*cat wrote:

Could it be Emly Moor, or is that too far?

Wrong side of the Pennies. What local news do you get on BBC 1 (have a
look at 1:30, 6:30, or 10:25pm)

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No definatley Granda/North West News, Winter Hill B?

If it's Granada then it will only be Winter Hill or one of its relays. In
Liverpool it's possible it might be Storeton, but no other relay.

Winter Hill B only transmits Muxes C and D. ITV-1, 2, 3, C4, and E4 (but
NOT E4+1) are on Mux 2.

See
http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/tx_n.html


Thanks Mark, I've studied that closely.

Just tried the box in another room with another aerial (this one is commual
and bit tempermental) UHF number and signal strength is still reading high,
but still no ITV's occasional pic, but very, very bad break up

Now, any advice, would be appriciated

Is it the transmitter???

or should I borrow cough buy another box?

O


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oscaretta*the*cat wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message

Thanks Mark, I've studied that closely.

Just tried the box in another room with another aerial (this one is commual
and bit tempermental) UHF number and signal strength is still reading high,
but still no ITV's occasional pic, but very, very bad break up

Now, any advice, would be appriciated

What make box is it ?

Is it the transmitter???

If your transmitter is Winter Hill (can you now confirm this from the info given ?
i.e the UHF channel numbers) I think this newsgroup would be full of reports, as
WH is the second or third largest population coverage transmitter in the UK.
If you're on Storeton then it might a transmitter fault.

There is another factor. The ITV mux from Winter Hill is on UHF Ch66. Channel 4
analogue is UHF Ch65. It's not unknown for adjacent analogue stations to swamp out
DTT muxes. It could be that C4 analogue is stamping across the ITV mux owing to
too much signal. Is there a signal quality (rather than strength) readout on your
box ? A clue would be high strength, but low quality. What does your analogue C4
picture look like ?

A final thing to try is a re-scan. There are reports that ITV etc changed PIDs on
some transmitters yesterday. In non techie talk the implication is you might need
to perform a re-scan to get the channels back.

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Mark
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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oscaretta*the*cat wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message Thanks Mark,
I've studied that closely.

Just tried the box in another room with another aerial (this one is
commual and bit tempermental) UHF number and signal strength is still
reading high, but still no ITV's occasional pic, but very, very bad break
up

Now, any advice, would be appriciated

What make box is it ?

Is it the transmitter???

If your transmitter is Winter Hill (can you now confirm this from the info
given ? i.e the UHF channel numbers) I think this newsgroup would be full
of reports, as WH is the second or third largest population coverage
transmitter in the UK.
If you're on Storeton then it might a transmitter fault.

There is another factor. The ITV mux from Winter Hill is on UHF Ch66.
Channel 4 analogue is UHF Ch65. It's not unknown for adjacent analogue
stations to swamp out DTT muxes. It could be that C4 analogue is stamping
across the ITV mux owing to too much signal. Is there a signal quality
(rather than strength) readout on your box ? A clue would be high
strength, but low quality. What does your analogue C4 picture look like ?

A final thing to try is a re-scan. There are reports that ITV etc changed
PIDs on some transmitters yesterday. In non techie talk the implication is
you might need to perform a re-scan to get the channels back.

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Mark
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It must be Winter Hill, I've used Winter Hill B UHF number 40/43 which gave
a great signal strength but sadly as you said, no ITV. Storeton UHF number
give no signal strength, but Winter Hills give a little. It's now on 66

It's a very old Philips on Digital that I use for TUTV,(conservation area =
no sky dish) which all worked fine up until Sat, Channel four looks grainy,
I am trying a re-scan as we speak.