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Old October 25th 04, 11:00 PM
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
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On Saturday, in article

"Walt Davidson" wrote:

On 22 Oct 2004 20:53:50 GMT,
wrote:


What dictionary were you looking in?


Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary.


Which edition? I have the 1983, 1993, and 1998 editions here, and all of
them show the first vowel as "i", pronounced as in pin. I would
seriously doubt that users in an earlier age would have used a long -ee-
in the first syllable either, since speech tended to be *more* clipped in
those days. Are you sure you don't need a magnifying glass?

Of course, we are now in the Twenty-first Century, so Estuary English
has become accepted as the norm.
:-(


Chambers published a "Twenty-First Century Dictionary" in 1999; it was
bloody awful, omitting tens of thousands of words to "reflect modern
usage". Since the "proper" Chambers has always been the dictionary of
recourse for cruciverbalists (both setters and solvers), this was
ignored. I have the 2003 edition of "Chambers Dictionary" on order at
present: this follows the tradition of the older editions in having just
about everything that's ever existed listed. (Not quite everything;
sometimes one needs the full OED;-)

(I've also been wondering how Chambers' can show the e-macron glyph (to
represent an -ee- sound) in "weird". Then it dawned upon me that Messrs
Chambers were Scottish, so wee-rrrr-d would not be so weird to them.
However, I think you'll find that most *English* speakers *do* pronounce
the "ei" as a diphthong, as I first posted.)

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  #22  
Old October 27th 04, 12:15 PM
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:04:59 +0100, Walt Davidson
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By the way, to be pedantic, it is Chambers's Twentieth Century
Dictionary.


If that is the 1901 edition it must be worth a bob or two. So which
edition is it?

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Old December 3rd 04, 08:47 AM
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People actually turn you in. Most times competitors.
if you mispell then your item won't sell. I suggest you look for other
sellers with very high feedbacks and turn them in also.
www.camnix.com/filter


"infobegger" wrote in message
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nog wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 23:53:39 -0500, operator jay wrote:

"Jim Watt" wrote in message
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On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 10:56:00 GMT, "-V-TECH-"
wrote:

Looking for a first class satellite reciever and that little bit extra
go
here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=5724309455

many
thanks

Do they auction spell checkers as well as satelitte Recievers?


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Old December 3rd 04, 09:44 AM
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In article [email protected], Cliff
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I suggest you look for other



I suggest you read this:

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

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Old December 3rd 04, 06:28 PM
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Not a bad suggestion.


"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" wrote in message
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In article [email protected], Cliff
wrote:

I suggest you look for other



I suggest you read this:

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

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Old January 30th 05, 02:00 PM
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"Nigel M" wrote in message
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In uk.tech.digital-tv, Max Demian wrote:

It's 'i' before 'e' except after 'c' *when the sound is 'ee'*.


What about Sheila?

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Old February 1st 05, 12:46 AM
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Nigel M wrote:

In uk.tech.digital-tv, Max Demian wrote:

It's 'i' before 'e' except after 'c' *when the sound is 'ee'*.


What about Sheila?



What about reign?
 




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