Sky+ Question

No-One wrote:

On channel 999 on the interactive bit it says on there somewhere that the
box actually receives the updates over the phone line.

If so it is an out-and-out lie. Updates are exclusively performed on
air.

Got it on screen in front of me right now.

"Sky regularly upgrades the software in your sky+ box via your phone line,
allowing us to continuously improve your sky+ experience."

Fine. It is indeed an out and out lie. There is not one jot of truth
in it. Not one.

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Brian McIlwrath wrote:

It was widely reported last year that Pace were forced
by Sky to agree to selling Sky+ boxes to them at WELL below wholesale cost
- so that Sky could sell them at their chosen price! The return (to Pace)
was a cut of the 10 pounds/month end user fee.

That may be so but nowhere will you find any official mention of the
Sky+ being subsidised. And, of course, there is no subsidy agreement
anywhere in the box.

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Del wrote:

What about a TiVo, how do they compare with Sky+?
I may as well explore all the options.

If you intend to subscribe to a £30 Sky package indefinitely, or if
you often need to record one thing whilst watching another then the
Sky+ is probably the best option. If not the Tivo is probably best.

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BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
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Conor wrote:

If you are going to subscribe to sky for a premium channel, then maybe Sky
is better. For me a freeview box with my tivo is the best way to go..

PLease can you post this in uk.tech.tv.sky?

I read it here too.


Maybe then Jomtien will realise that people can exercise choice.

This supposes that they can receive DTT. Many cannot.

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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:08:52 GMT, Jomtien wrote:

Got it on screen in front of me right now.

"Sky regularly upgrades the software in your sky+ box via your phone line,
allowing us to continuously improve your sky+ experience."

Fine. It is indeed an out and out lie. There is not one jot of truth
in it. Not one.

Glad to hear it, I didn't believe that Sky would use wording like that
on their customer channel, so your confirmation that this is indeed a
lie is most welcome.

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(Jomtien) wrote:

Brian McIlwrath wrote:

It was widely reported last year that Pace were forced
by Sky to agree to selling Sky+ boxes to them at WELL below wholesale
cost
- so that Sky could sell them at their chosen price! The return (to
Pace)
was a cut of the 10 pounds/month end user fee.

That may be so but nowhere will you find any official mention of the
Sky+ being subsidised. And, of course, there is no subsidy agreement
anywhere in the box.


Correct and Pace were not forced either, as it goes they'll have done very
nicely out of the agreed terms.

Chrissie



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Zero Tolerance wrote:

Got it on screen in front of me right now.

"Sky regularly upgrades the software in your sky+ box via your phone line,
allowing us to continuously improve your sky+ experience."

Fine. It is indeed an out and out lie. There is not one jot of truth
in it. Not one.

Glad to hear it, I didn't believe that Sky would use wording like that
on their customer channel, so your confirmation that this is indeed a
lie is most welcome.

Re-read my post. You have missed the point yet again. My comment
clearly referred to the message on the screen.

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BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
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Mediazoo wrote:

Correct and Pace were not forced either,

I wouldn't be so quick to say that. If Sky want something Pace have no
real choice but to comply. Failing that Sky would simply stop using
Pace digiboxes. One of the disadvantages of a monopoly, again, and
indeed an example of why the law relating to the abuse of a dominant
market position was introduced.


as it goes they'll have done very
nicely out of the agreed terms.

I'm not so sure about that either, as I mentioned previously. IIRC the
agreement was for a year or less and involved Pace selling the Sky+ at
below cost in return for *part* of the £10 fee. So Pace would have
received some fraction of (12 * £10), or less (much less?) than £120.
Also Sky subsequently waived the £10 fee for those on the higher
package. Where did this leave Pace, I wonder? With just a fraction of
a waived fee, or, in other words, nothing?

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Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
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No monies return'd. ;-)

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 07:17:17 GMT, Jomtien wrote:

Re-read my post. You have missed the point yet again. My comment
clearly referred to the message on the screen.

I read the words as written. Can't be held responsible if what you
said is not what you meant.

Zero Tolerance wrote:

Re-read my post. You have missed the point yet again. My comment
clearly referred to the message on the screen.

I read the words as written. Can't be held responsible if what you
said is not what you meant.

As I said, you didn't read what was written. You are indeed
responsible for your own incompetence.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)