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Giulio wrote:

I know about the rights of the programme, but it's about tine that we
unify
the rights for all UE

Indeed. If the Commission, the MEPs and the euro civil servants ever
stop lining their pockets long enough to do any work I'm sure this
will be high on the list of things to do. A bigger bunch of
incompetent crooks would be hard to find anywhere, though national EU
governments like France and Italy would be a good place to start
looking.


Hi Jom
I'm italian but I completely agree with you, I know some Italian MEP they
don't even go to Bruxell but they collect the presence money, some of them
show up once or twice in the all year and they still get 12.000 ? a month as
the italian MEP have the highest wage in the EU parlament
Ciao Jom
Giulio



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On Sat, 08 May 2004 14:30:09 +0100, rnet[dot]co[dot]uk
(Simon Gardner) wrote:

In article ,
"Steve Brooks" wrote:

Simon Gardner wrote:
Jim Watt wrote:

You've claimed that before, and it's still not true. Disney and
Warner Bros have also become irked over the change,

Do we need their cultural pollution?

NO.

Especially not sodding DISNEY.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Michael Moor film about Bush.

Disney wrecked the reputation of two of my favourite childhood books.
Disney is an evil empire.

I think we have found some common ground at last !


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Jomtien wrote:

: AFAIK the only studio that reckons to have not sold something to the
: BBC for this reason is Fox. The programme was 24. And the real reason
: was probably either because Sky One paid more than the BBC offered, or
: that Fox were happy to sell it for less in order to support Sky and
: annoy the BBC. Sour grapes, like I said.

In the secretive world of TV deals *VERY* little is *EVER* made public.

In your typical disingenuous fashion you are correct that only "24" is KNOWN
to have been lost to the BBC so far. Possible other lost programmes (and any
inflated prices now being paid by the BBC due to European FTA broadcasting)
will, most likely, remain strictly confidential!

Brian McIlwrath wrote:

In the secretive world of TV deals *VERY* little is *EVER* made public.

In your typical disingenuous fashion you are correct that only "24" is KNOWN
to have been lost to the BBC so far. Possible other lost programmes (and any
inflated prices now being paid by the BBC due to European FTA broadcasting)
will, most likely, remain strictly confidential!

Or in other words it's all conjecture then?
In that vein we can just assume that every programme that the BBC
don't show has in fact been refused them by the maker for copyright
reasons and that next year's licence fee will triple to pay the extra
fees demanded by the few makers who will still sell to the BBC.

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Giulio wrote:

I'm italian but I completely agree with you, I know some Italian MEP they
don't even go to Bruxell but they collect the presence money, some of them
show up once or twice in the all year and they still get 12.000 ? a month as
the italian MEP have the highest wage in the EU parlament

The Italian MEPs certainly aren't alone in doing that. And I think
that the MEPs of some of the recently arrived member states earn more
in a month than their national counterparts do in a year. And they all
still get the tax-free groceries too, AFAIK.

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Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
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No monies return'd. ;-)

Il Fri, 07 May 2004 05:59:41 GMT, Jomtien ha
scritto:

A bigger bunch of
incompetent crooks would be hard to find anywhere, though national EU
governments like France and Italy would be a good place to start
looking.

Most of Italy's MEP are second or even third ranking politicians. They
are even worse than our national MPs. My constituency's MEP lives few
blocks far from me: he is a total idiot who barely speaks Italian.
The real problem is that Murdoch is probably more powerful than Blair,
Chirac and all the others. An expert interviewed by the French
"Telesatellite" tv show had to admit that if I may not subscribe a
British satellite channel there are mainly economical reason i. e.
paytv stations have divided Europe into "zones of influence".

Giuseppe Sottotetti

This is the link of the last resolution on "TV without frontier". Lot's of
bla,bla,bla

http://www2.europarl.eu.int/omk/sipa...DOC+XML+V0//EN

"Jomtien" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
Giulio wrote:

I'm italian but I completely agree with you, I know some Italian MEP they
don't even go to Bruxell but they collect the presence money, some of
them
show up once or twice in the all year and they still get 12.000 ? a month
as
the italian MEP have the highest wage in the EU parlament

The Italian MEPs certainly aren't alone in doing that. And I think
that the MEPs of some of the recently arrived member states earn more
in a month than their national counterparts do in a year. And they all
still get the tax-free groceries too, AFAIK.

--
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The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

On 8 May 2004 22:54:37 GMT, Brian McIlwrath wrote:

Jomtien wrote:

: AFAIK the only studio that reckons to have not sold something to the
: BBC for this reason is Fox. The programme was 24. And the real reason
: was probably either because Sky One paid more than the BBC offered, or
: that Fox were happy to sell it for less in order to support Sky and
: annoy the BBC. Sour grapes, like I said.

In the secretive world of TV deals *VERY* little is *EVER* made public.

In your typical disingenuous fashion you are correct that only "24" is KNOWN
to have been lost to the BBC so far. Possible other lost programmes (and any
inflated prices now being paid by the BBC due to European FTA broadcasting)
will, most likely, remain strictly confidential!

I doubt it. What other programmes would you want the BBC to buy from Hollywood?
They have a great record of encouraging home produced talent. According to a
recent posting by James Follet they have also finally sorted out the
trans-national rights involved with broadcasting over Europe unencrypted & over
the Internet for work commissioned by the BBC.

The BBC have added a number of excellent digital TV channels. BBC Four shows
quite a number of non-British shows (happily they are non-US too). There are
extra digital radio stations, there is Freeview, there is BBC 7. There is the
best web site in the world plus you can stream or download most any radio
programme broadcast in the past week. There is the GCSE educational stuff (byte
sized?) that my daughter tells me is terrific) There is the adult education &
Open University programmes.

With all the above going on the BBC appears to have been exceedingly prudent
with its money in the last few years. The BBC should be spending the TV License
money on Public Service Broadcasting (that includes the Internet) & British
produced TV & radio not paying inflated prices for a few imported Hollywood
titles.

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Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

On Sun, 09 May 2004 08:30:57 +0100, JAF wrote:

On Sun, 09 May 2004 07:51:43 +0100, Noel
wrote:

A bigger bunch of
incompetent crooks would be hard to find anywhere, though national EU
governments like France and Italy would be a good place to start
looking.

As would the national government of Ireland.

And Britain. We're no saints, not by any stretch of the imagination.

See, we all share the same great European cultu-) or at least the same
opinion of our politicians:-)

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Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Jim Watt wrote:

On Thu, 06 May 2004 19:38:02 +0100, nsj
wrote:

Giulio wrote:

I know about the rights of the programme, but it's about tine that we unify
the rights for all UE

No it's not. Why should I pay extra on my TV Licence so the BBC can afford
the rights to transmit their programmes to an international audience?

This has been an argument that repeats itself a lot.

I can watch Italian, Portugese, Polish, German, Bulgarian, French and
Spanish television FTA - it does not seem to be a problem for them.

But how many people in the UK speak Portugese, Polish, German, Bulgarian, or
French? At least to a standard to make watching a television programme or
film worthwhile. When I've watched Spanish TV, I can't say the content was
anything worth writing home about.

A sizeable chunk of those resident in mainland Europe speak English to a
high standard as their second language.

Showing British television into Europe would help promote Britain and
British products. What they need to restrict is the American imports,
where they have to pay rights to the evil empire;

What British products are these?

People will watch what is good. If that comes from America, then so be it.

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