The Sky RED DOT that doesn't go away - FFS!

In article , rnet[dot]co
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In article ,
Dom Robinson wrote:

Pressing 'backup' is not an answer, as on the BBC it comes back every 30 mins
(eg. News 24) and on commercial TV it comes back after the ad break.

Those "red dot zappers" are not the answer as they don't get rid of a problem
that shouldn't be happening in the first place.

Given that this is happening across several TV platforms and across several
makes of digibox, who exactly is to blame? I'm prepared to shift heaven and
earth to put a stop to this

As far as the BBC is concerned, there is a very easy answer. These dots do
not appear if you use a real satyellite receiver (or PVR receiver).



You mean Sky+? Are they going to buy me one then?
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Dom Robinson wrote:

Those "red dot zappers" are not the answer as they don't get rid of a problem
that shouldn't be happening in the first place.

They certainly do get rid of the problem. I know: I have had one for
ages.

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"David Marshall" wrote in message
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loz wrote:
Well as I understand it, the Sky+ platform can support interactivity during
playback of a recording,
Um, "the broadcast stream"? No, it receives *a* broadcast stream, not
necessarily the same one as recorded (and doesn't now need to be connected
to a dish for playback).
Because the associated interactive content may not be being broadcast at
the time of playback!

My point was that much of the interactive content isn't related to the program
you are watching
As long as there is a broadcast stream being received it can use whatever is in
that
Like news headlines - you wouldn't want the ones from the time of the original
program anyway.
Sky Bet - same deal - you want to bet on todays events, not yesterdays (though
you would know the winner :-))
Press interactive on Sky and most of the time it is generic stuff totally
unrelated to the program

Loz

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Today it finally got to Panasonic boxes

Get rid of the DOGS as well while you're at it.

(David Marshall) writes:

Um, interactive services aren't recorded (and can't be recorded as
they're possibly time-sensitive). A "Press Red" indicator would be
meaningless for many time-shifted programmes.

But does the picture from the "VCR output" scart (intended for
recording of programmes) of a Sky box contain the red dot?

Geoff

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:22:53 +0000, rnet[dot]co[dot]uk (Simon
Gardner) wrote:

As far as the BBC is concerned, there is a very easy answer. These dots do
not appear if you use a real satyellite receiver (or PVR receiver).

They disappear after about 30 seconds on Freeview DVB-T.


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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:22:53 +0000, rnet[dot]co[dot]uk (Simon
Gardner) wrote:

As far as the BBC is concerned, there is a very easy answer. These dots do
not appear if you use a real satyellite receiver (or PVR receiver).

They disappear after about 30 seconds on Freeview DVB-T.


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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:22:47 GMT, Geoff Rimmer
wrote:

(David Marshall) writes:

Um, interactive services aren't recorded (and can't be recorded as
they're possibly time-sensitive). A "Press Red" indicator would be
meaningless for many time-shifted programmes.

But does the picture from the "VCR output" scart (intended for
recording of programmes) of a Sky box contain the red dot?

Yes. It's a backwards step. My old Pace analogue receiver didn';t even put out
the setup menus on the VCR SCART as of course there was no point to recording
those either.

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:22:47 GMT, Geoff Rimmer
wrote:

(David Marshall) writes:

Um, interactive services aren't recorded (and can't be recorded as
they're possibly time-sensitive). A "Press Red" indicator would be
meaningless for many time-shifted programmes.

But does the picture from the "VCR output" scart (intended for
recording of programmes) of a Sky box contain the red dot?

Yes. It's a backwards step. My old Pace analogue receiver didn';t even put out
the setup menus on the VCR SCART as of course there was no point to recording
those either.

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Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:22:47 GMT, Geoff Rimmer
wrote:

(David Marshall) writes:

Um, interactive services aren't recorded (and can't be recorded as
they're possibly time-sensitive). A "Press Red" indicator would be
meaningless for many time-shifted programmes.

But does the picture from the "VCR output" scart (intended for
recording of programmes) of a Sky box contain the red dot?

In the case of Digiboxes, I don't think there's any fundamental
difference between the output of the "TV" and "VCR" SCARTS (for the
old analogue boxes, the volume control on the remote worked on the
audio output from "TV"). I think they just label them like that
simply to avoid confusing people who would ring up help lines asking
which one they plug the VCR into....
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