Unseemly truncation of Gentleman Jack

On 24/06/2019 07:12, Jeff Layman wrote:

On 24/06/19 02:32, Bill Wright wrote:

What's going on? It started late and finished late. Even with five
minutes' padding I lost the climax (in several senses as it happens) so
I had to fart about with iPlayer to avoid disappointment. Why do they do
this sort of thing? Why were they running late? Why doesn't the EPG get
altered? **** up, brewery, or what?

It's the only programme I watch on the BBC and they can't even get that
right.

Bill

Fooooooootball, Bill. The women's England-Cameroons game overran by 10
minutes.

Of course, rather than try to get back on schedule the BBC still
insisted on showing long preview trailers during the breaks between
programmes. If they'd dumped those they could have saved several minutes.

Do you remember the days when the BBC used to cut into football matches
ten minutes after kick-off and similarly miss the beginnings of other
sporting events, all because a live drama had over-run in the studio?

No, me neither.

Its stupid all of this can be done from home I'd have thought.
Brian

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BBC sometimes catches them in time. I decided that the man who does
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On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:25:16 +0100, "Brian Gaff"

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Its probably a software thing. a person flags certain programs as
probably
going to overrun, then sets all other things in the running order on the
computer to run after its finished, but the software does not actually
know
how to update the epg etc, and the devices looking at the epg probably
don't
check often enough. They only catch long term changes known say a day ago.
I bet its something like that. Unfortunately, joining up the dots is
something that is now no longer understood by anybody at all, due to staff
turnover and outsourcing.
Brian
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Who knows, but even in the analogue days my old Philips N1700 modified to
run at two speeds had to be left to run most of the time if there was any
sport that might over run, it was a given that the BBC would screw up the
schedules for it.
Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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What's going on? It started late and finished late. Even with five
minutes' padding I lost the climax (in several senses as it happens) so I
had to fart about with iPlayer to avoid disappointment. Why do they do
this sort of thing? Why were they running late? Why doesn't the EPG get
altered? **** up, brewery, or what?

you have a machine that works with AR and gives you padding?

It's the only programme I watch on the BBC and they can't even get that
right.

it worked for me, so I guess that the AR signals were correct even if the
EPG wasn't

tim

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Who knows, but even in the analogue days my old Philips N1700 modified to
run at two speeds had to be left to run most of the time if there was any
sport that might over run, it was a given that the BBC would screw up the
schedules for it.

And even then you might miss it because the BBC decided to run the programme
at the published time - but on a different channel to the one advertised
because they chose to continue sport on the published channel (BBC1) and
bump the later scheduled BBC1 programmes onto BBC2.

I wish broadcasters would have a designated channel (maybe a Red Button one)
which is reserved for live events, where they can interrupt and bump each
other to their heart's content in their own little world, while leaving
published scheduled programmes to run at the time stated on the channel
stated.

If they need to bump a programme, it is better to bin it completely on the
scheduled day (replace it by a disposable filler such as Dad's Army) and
re-schedule it for the following week etc where you can add it as a new
event to be recorded, rather than showing it at the wrong time and/or wrong
channel where many recorders will miss it.

On 24/06/2019 22:40, NY wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Who knows, but even in the analogue days my old Philips N1700 modified
to run at two speeds had to be left to run most of the time if there
was any sport that might over run, it was a given that the BBC would
screw up the schedules for it.

And even then you might miss it because the BBC decided to run the
programme at the published time - but on a different channel to the one
advertised because they chose to continue sport on the published channel
(BBC1) and bump the later scheduled BBC1 programmes onto BBC2.

I wish broadcasters would have a designated channel (maybe a Red Button
one) which is reserved for live events, where they can interrupt and
bump each other to their heart's content in their own little world,
while leaving published scheduled programmes to run at the time stated
on the channel stated.

If they need to bump a programme, it is better to bin it completely on
the scheduled day (replace it by a disposable filler such as Dad's Army)
and re-schedule it for the following week etc where you can add it as a
new event to be recorded, rather than showing it at the wrong time
and/or wrong channel where many recorders will miss it.

I think it was in 1980 that the SAS storming of the Iranian Embassy
(live on TV!) pushed all other programming back over an hour and I
consequently missed an episode of Thames TV's "Fox" (which I had been at
pains to set up to be recorded on my VHS machine).

I got the DVDs about 10 years ago and saw it at last. Still can't
understand why such a programme never once got a repeat.

On Tuesday, 25 June 2019 01:53:19 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
I think it was in 1980 that the SAS storming of the Iranian Embassy
(live on TV!)

AIUI, it was "as live" with about 10 minutes' delay so the terrorists wouldn't gain intelligence from the broadcast.

Owain

On 24/06/2019 02:32, Bill Wright wrote:
What's going on? It started late and finished late. Even with five
minutes' padding I lost the climax (in several senses as it happens) so
I had to fart about with iPlayer to avoid disappointment. Why do they do
this sort of thing? Why were they running late? Why doesn't the EPG get
altered? **** up, brewery, or what?

It's the only programme I watch on the BBC and they can't even get that
right.

Don't worry, you didn't miss anything.

We got to watch it because we wanted the news, and the EPG wasn't being
updated so we didn't know how late it was.

Andy

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 02:32:48 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

What's going on? It started late and finished late. Even with five
minutes' padding I lost the climax (in several senses as it happens) so
I had to fart about with iPlayer to avoid disappointment. Why do they do
this sort of thing? Why were they running late? Why doesn't the EPG get
altered? **** up, brewery, or what?


My Panasonic YouView PVR recorded both the Antiques Roadshow and
Gentleman Jack complete, starting them 11 minutes late.

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:30:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 June 2019 01:53:19 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
I think it was in 1980 that the SAS storming of the Iranian Embassy
(live on TV!)

AIUI, it was "as live" with about 10 minutes' delay so the terrorists
wouldn't gain intelligence from the broadcast.

And how exactly did they achieve that in 1980?

On 25/06/2019 23:48, Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:30:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 June 2019 01:53:19 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
I think it was in 1980 that the SAS storming of the Iranian Embassy
(live on TV!)

AIUI, it was "as live" with about 10 minutes' delay so the terrorists
wouldn't gain intelligence from the broadcast.

And how exactly did they achieve that in 1980?

Very simple. A recording machine at one end of the corridor and a
playback machine at the other, and a long loop of tape.

Bill