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I'm soliciting for suggestions for a good backwards compatible HDTV. I
bought Sony 40KV2500, but it turns out it's non-HD image is terrible, much worse than CRTs. On top of that, even though advertised as having VGA input, the resolution is limited to 1400x1050. In an ideal world, everything would be HD, but that's not happening for a while. So, it's going back to the store. My question: Is there a decent 37"-40" HD TV out there with full res VGA-in and good non-HD rendering? TIA. |
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On Jan 4, 7:28*pm, AlanS wrote:
I'm soliciting for suggestions for a good backwards compatible HDTV. I bought Sony 40KV2500, but it turns out it's non-HD image is terrible, much worse than CRTs. On top of that, even though advertised as having VGA input, the resolution is limited to 1400x1050. In an ideal world, everything would be HD, but that's not happening for a while. So, it's going back to the store. My question: Is there a decent 37"-40" HD TV out there with full res VGA-in and good non-HD rendering? TIA. Did you try the 'limited' VGA port or just assume its N/G? As a point of reference, the Sony HD-CAM high definition digital betacam broadcast VTR down rezzes the 1080i signal to 1440x1080 and up rezzes during playback. The replacement machines (SRW5500) does do a true 1920x1080. I don't know of any manufacturers that spent any extra effort to get the best performance with an analog composite signal. If you connected a DVD player via HDMI or analog component, that would be a very similar signal but without the subcarrier. Decoding analog composite has always been the weakest link in the system. The best of the analog sets had 3 line digital comb filters to do the best job possible. But as a manufacturing issue, why spend money to do a good job on signals whose days are numbered? And no matter how good a job you do, it will pale in comparison to the HD feeds. BTW your TV appears to be a KDL-40V2500 GG |
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AlanS wrote:
I'm soliciting for suggestions for a good backwards compatible HDTV. I bought Sony 40KV2500, but it turns out it's non-HD image is terrible, much worse than CRTs. On top of that, even though advertised as having VGA input, the resolution is limited to 1400x1050. In an ideal world, everything would be HD, but that's not happening for a while. So, it's going back to the store. My question: Is there a decent 37"-40" HD TV out there with full res VGA-in and good non-HD rendering? TIA. What kind of SD signal do you use, cable, satellite, OTA? What is the signal level? If cable, is there a difference between the analog and digital stations? |
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On Jan 4, 10:28*pm, AlanS wrote:
I'm soliciting for suggestions for a good backwards compatible HDTV. I bought Sony 40KV2500, but it turns out it's non-HD image is terrible, much worse than CRTs. On top of that, even though advertised as having VGA input, the resolution is limited to 1400x1050. In an ideal world, everything would be HD, but that's not happening for a while. So, it's going back to the store. My question: Is there a decent 37"-40" HD TV out there with full res VGA-in and good non-HD rendering? TIA. What people seem to not understand is that generally when they get an HDTV, the TV is at least twice as big as they're used to watching. So that means that the terrible NTSC analog signal is just blown up as least twice as big as they're used to. It's like looking at crappy newspaper photos standing 1 foot away from the paper, or 5 feet away from the paper. |
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On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:34:49 -0800, Larry Bud wrote:
On Jan 4, 10:28Â*pm, AlanS wrote: I'm soliciting for suggestions for a good backwards compatible HDTV. I bought Sony 40KV2500, but it turns out it's non-HD image is terrible, much worse than CRTs. On top of that, even though advertised as having VGA input, the resolution is limited to 1400x1050. In an ideal world, everything would be HD, but that's not happening for a while. So, it's going back to the store. My question: Is there a decent 37"-40" HD TV out there with full res VGA-in and good non-HD rendering? TIA. What people seem to not understand is that generally when they get an HDTV, the TV is at least twice as big as they're used to watching. So that means that the terrible NTSC analog signal is just blown up as least twice as big as they're used to. It's like looking at crappy newspaper photos standing 1 foot away from the paper, or 5 feet away from the paper. SD comes in fine on my 37" HDTV. But I get OTA. If he's getting cable or sat, I'm not sure if the signal is as good. The one time I saw Directv SD on an HDTV it looked like crap. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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I was very surprised to see that my 42"Panasonic did very well with 480i
signal but I think that it converts it to a 480P Bob "Wes Newell" wrote in message news:[email protected] On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:34:49 -0800, Larry Bud wrote: On Jan 4, 10:28 pm, AlanS wrote: I'm soliciting for suggestions for a good backwards compatible HDTV. I bought Sony 40KV2500, but it turns out it's non-HD image is terrible, much worse than CRTs. On top of that, even though advertised as having VGA input, the resolution is limited to 1400x1050. In an ideal world, everything would be HD, but that's not happening for a while. So, it's going back to the store. My question: Is there a decent 37"-40" HD TV out there with full res VGA-in and good non-HD rendering? TIA. What people seem to not understand is that generally when they get an HDTV, the TV is at least twice as big as they're used to watching. So that means that the terrible NTSC analog signal is just blown up as least twice as big as they're used to. It's like looking at crappy newspaper photos standing 1 foot away from the paper, or 5 feet away from the paper. SD comes in fine on my 37" HDTV. But I get OTA. If he's getting cable or sat, I'm not sure if the signal is as good. The one time I saw Directv SD on an HDTV it looked like crap. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:11:20 -0800, Bill's News wrote:
SD comes in fine on my 37" HDTV. But I get OTA. If he's getting cable or sat, I'm not sure if the signal is as good. The one time I saw Directv SD on an HDTV it looked like crap. Wes, you're not giving enough credit to the upconversion capabilities of your Myth systems. And you're not considering how insignificant upscaling is on a small display vs. a large display. Some folk who complain of poor SD presentation on their displays have units twice as large as you or I. When I give a comparison like above, I'm not talking about through my MythTV system. I'm talking about selecting a channel with the tuner in the Tv. In fact I don't even have any tuners capable of NTSC in my mythtv system. They are all ATSC only. I also have the antenna hooked to my TV's as well as an old vcr for a total 9 tuners it feeds. I'm simply giving what mine looks like. The DirecTV picture I saw was on a set about the size of my 37". It may have been a little bigger, but not much. My featureless 42" monitor showed poor SD picture quality a few years ago when initially connected to a Motorola HDVR. Over time, the Motorola firmware was upgraded by the cable company and that issue disappeared. During the same time span none on my PCs had ever failed to produce an excellent SD picture, And exactly the reason I specified mine was OTA. IOW's the problem you had was not with the TV, but with the source. Cable I presume. Yes, SD on a 1920x1080 display sucks, unless shown in 640x480 dots. To overcome this, the better the upconverting algorithm, the better the result. And even my cheap HDTV's have selections 1:1, which would be crystal clear on any set. Assuming a good source. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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