College Football on DTV???

Aside from ESPN Gameplan, and the D.C. locals that I have now, what other
NCAA Football games could I get with DTV? I'm thinking of adding the sports
pack to get the regional sports networks because I'm assuming they carry
college football, but wanted to verify this. Also, how much duplication
would there be if they do carry games, between that and the ESPN Gameplan?

many thanks

Darren North ) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
Aside from ESPN Gameplan, and the D.C. locals that I have now, what other
NCAA Football games could I get with DTV? I'm thinking of adding the sports
pack to get the regional sports networks because I'm assuming they carry
college football, but wanted to verify this. Also, how much duplication
would there be if they do carry games, between that and the ESPN Gameplan?

The rule of thumb is that anything that has a "premium sports pack" option
(like ESPN Gameplan, or NHL Center Ice) will get blacked out on the RSN
channel if all you have is the regular sports pack.

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Jeff Rife wrote:

Darren North ) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:

Aside from ESPN Gameplan, and the D.C. locals that I have now, what other
NCAA Football games could I get with DTV? I'm thinking of adding the sports
pack to get the regional sports networks because I'm assuming they carry
college football, but wanted to verify this. Also, how much duplication
would there be if they do carry games, between that and the ESPN Gameplan?


The rule of thumb is that anything that has a "premium sports pack" option
(like ESPN Gameplan, or NHL Center Ice) will get blacked out on the RSN
channel if all you have is the regular sports pack.


This is incorrect. The sports pack does indeed carry a number of
college football games unavailable on Gameplan. If memory serves, you
can get a number of Big12 games with the various Fox Sports packages.
You also get a number of smaller regional schools.

Dummy ) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
The rule of thumb is that anything that has a "premium sports pack" option
(like ESPN Gameplan, or NHL Center Ice) will get blacked out on the RSN
channel if all you have is the regular sports pack.


This is incorrect.

I don't think so, and you seem to agree with me.

The sports pack does indeed carry a number of
college football games unavailable on Gameplan.

Right, and because they are not part of ESPN Gameplan, they are not
blacked out. The difference here is that other premium sports packs
(MLBEI, NHLCI, etc.) include all games on the RSNs, while Gameplan does
not.

The OP was looking to see how much overlap the ESPN Gameplan games and
the Sports Pack games would have, and the answer is zero. That is, you
will *never* get ESPN Gameplan games on the RSN unless you have also
paid for ESPN Gameplan.

If memory serves, you
can get a number of Big12 games with the various Fox Sports packages.

This is because the football sports packs are the only ones where the
"premium" is more than just a copy of the RSN feed. There are also PPV
college football games that are purely Fox Sports Net...ESPN has nothing
to do with them.

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that is wrong. You will get espn gameplan games on the rsn but only the
local "espn extra or plus(whatever they call them) games." Like fox sports
pittsburgh will pickup the espn plus games for teams like kent state,ohio
u,or penn state if abc,espn,cbs,or espn2 is showing them. I don't think they
are allowed to show these games on espn gameplan though.
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Dummy ) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
The rule of thumb is that anything that has a "premium sports pack"
option
(like ESPN Gameplan, or NHL Center Ice) will get blacked out on the
RSN
channel if all you have is the regular sports pack.


This is incorrect.

I don't think so, and you seem to agree with me.

The sports pack does indeed carry a number of
college football games unavailable on Gameplan.

Right, and because they are not part of ESPN Gameplan, they are not
blacked out. The difference here is that other premium sports packs
(MLBEI, NHLCI, etc.) include all games on the RSNs, while Gameplan does
not.

The OP was looking to see how much overlap the ESPN Gameplan games and
the Sports Pack games would have, and the answer is zero. That is, you
will *never* get ESPN Gameplan games on the RSN unless you have also
paid for ESPN Gameplan.

If memory serves, you
can get a number of Big12 games with the various Fox Sports packages.

This is because the football sports packs are the only ones where the
"premium" is more than just a copy of the RSN feed. There are also PPV
college football games that are purely Fox Sports Net...ESPN has nothing
to do with them.

--
Jeff Rife |
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michael d ) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
that is wrong. You will get espn gameplan games on the rsn but only the
local "espn extra or plus(whatever they call them) games." Like fox sports
pittsburgh will pickup the espn plus games for teams like kent state,ohio
u,or penn state if abc,espn,cbs,or espn2 is showing them. I don't think they
are allowed to show these games on espn gameplan though.

So, if they aren't on ESPN Gameplan, then the overlap is still zero, just
like I said. Who produces the game isn't important...they could be labeled
ESPN Plus, or ESPN SuperDeluxe and you still don't get to see games that are
on ESPN GamePlan on an out of market RSN *unless* you also pay for ESPN
GamePlan, in which case DirecTV doesn't bother to block it out.

None of this applies to your local RSN. The game might be on ESPN GamePlan,
but if your local RSN is showing it, they you *should* get to see it there,
although some hard to understand blackout rules apply.

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i believe if you get espn gameplan you get all games on gameplan(even the
ones covered by fox sports net) if i'm not mistaken.
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michael d ) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
that is wrong. You will get espn gameplan games on the rsn but only the
local "espn extra or plus(whatever they call them) games." Like fox
sports
pittsburgh will pickup the espn plus games for teams like kent
state,ohio
u,or penn state if abc,espn,cbs,or espn2 is showing them. I don't think
they
are allowed to show these games on espn gameplan though.

So, if they aren't on ESPN Gameplan, then the overlap is still zero, just
like I said. Who produces the game isn't important...they could be
labeled
ESPN Plus, or ESPN SuperDeluxe and you still don't get to see games that
are
on ESPN GamePlan on an out of market RSN *unless* you also pay for ESPN
GamePlan, in which case DirecTV doesn't bother to block it out.

None of this applies to your local RSN. The game might be on ESPN
GamePlan,
but if your local RSN is showing it, they you *should* get to see it
there,
although some hard to understand blackout rules apply.

--
Jeff Rife |
301-916-8131 | http://www.nabs.net/Cartoons/Dilbert/TechSupport.gif

michael d ) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
i believe if you get espn gameplan you get all games on gameplan(even the
ones covered by fox sports net) if i'm not mistaken.

Boy, this is like pulling teeth.

If the game is shown on one of the GamePlan channels, then it doesn't matter
*where* it came from, who filmed it, etc., because ESPN has paid for special
"out of market" rights, and you cannot see it anywhere out of the markets
that it is intended for.

In some cases, a game is blacked out for certain subscribers on ESPN GamePlan
channels because their local RSN has the rights. This blackout can occur
even if that RSN isn't actually showing the game.

But, once again, if a game is on a GamePlan channel, you cannot see it on
an out of market RSN *unless* you subscribe to GamePlan. The only reason
it shows up on the out of market RSN channel is because the DirecTV knows
that it doesn't matter where you watch it...it's the same feed.

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Jeff Rife wrote:

Dummy ) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:

The rule of thumb is that anything that has a "premium sports pack" option
(like ESPN Gameplan, or NHL Center Ice) will get blacked out on the RSN
channel if all you have is the regular sports pack.


This is incorrect.


I don't think so, and you seem to agree with me.


The sports pack does indeed carry a number of
college football games unavailable on Gameplan.


Right, and because they are not part of ESPN Gameplan, they are not
blacked out. The difference here is that other premium sports packs
(MLBEI, NHLCI, etc.) include all games on the RSNs, while Gameplan does
not.

The OP was looking to see how much overlap the ESPN Gameplan games and
the Sports Pack games would have, and the answer is zero. That is, you
will *never* get ESPN Gameplan games on the RSN unless you have also
paid for ESPN Gameplan.

Mistook the OP's intent. You're right. I thought they were asking,
"can I get college football without Gameplan?" Didn't realize that some
of the RSNs carry ESPN+ games.

If you dont mind replays, there are a lot of college football replays on
sunday and even some throughout the week available with the regular sports
pack. These are replays of games that are only available live with the ESPN
Game plan, but the replays are not blacked out.
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Jeff Rife wrote:

Dummy ) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:

The rule of thumb is that anything that has a "premium sports pack"
option
(like ESPN Gameplan, or NHL Center Ice) will get blacked out on the RSN
channel if all you have is the regular sports pack.


This is incorrect.


I don't think so, and you seem to agree with me.


The sports pack does indeed carry a number of
college football games unavailable on Gameplan.


Right, and because they are not part of ESPN Gameplan, they are not
blacked out. The difference here is that other premium sports packs
(MLBEI, NHLCI, etc.) include all games on the RSNs, while Gameplan does
not.

The OP was looking to see how much overlap the ESPN Gameplan games and
the Sports Pack games would have, and the answer is zero. That is, you
will *never* get ESPN Gameplan games on the RSN unless you have also
paid for ESPN Gameplan.

Mistook the OP's intent. You're right. I thought they were asking,
"can I get college football without Gameplan?" Didn't realize that some
of the RSNs carry ESPN+ games.