WTB - Looking for Broken Tivo 80 HR (TCD240080) with lifetime subscription

I am looking to buy a "Broken" Tivo 80 Hr. (model TCD240080) with lifetime
subscription

Does anyone have one for sale or can tell me where to look (other than
eBay - already looked)?

Thanks
Chad

"Chad S" wrote in message
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I am looking to buy a "Broken" Tivo 80 Hr. (model TCD240080) with lifetime
subscription

Does anyone have one for sale or can tell me where to look (other than
eBay - already looked)?

Thanks
Chad



Dunno, but if the idea is to save $$$, you're not going to save much. The
lifetime subscriptions
are the $$$, the broken TiVo hardware isn't worth much at all so you're
still going to pay a couple
hundred bucks if you do find one (I see them from time to time on ebay but
you need to keep constant
watch).

"Rob" wrote in message
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"Chad S" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I am looking to buy a "Broken" Tivo 80 Hr. (model TCD240080) with
lifetime
subscription

Does anyone have one for sale or can tell me where to look (other
than
eBay - already looked)?

Thanks
Chad



Dunno, but if the idea is to save $$$, you're not going to save
much. The
lifetime subscriptions
are the $$$, the broken TiVo hardware isn't worth much at all so
you're
still going to pay a couple
hundred bucks if you do find one (I see them from time to time on
ebay but
you need to keep constant
watch).

The thought that occurs to me--I'm not the OP--that one might use the
broken Tivo to get the service, but split the phone line so that the
info goes to a working Tivo without a subscription, as well as the
broken one. If the signal is connected to a one-way buffer, then only
the broken Tivo will respond, but the new one will receive everything.

Norm Strong

Interesting thought and I do not know a lot about Tivo's but if my
assumption is correct that they work like PC's, then only one of the two
units modems can be on that connection (the other one will see the line as
being busy and not try to connect). But then again, I might not know what
I'm talking about.


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"Rob" wrote in message
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"Chad S" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I am looking to buy a "Broken" Tivo 80 Hr. (model TCD240080) with
lifetime
subscription

Does anyone have one for sale or can tell me where to look (other
than
eBay - already looked)?

Thanks
Chad



Dunno, but if the idea is to save $$$, you're not going to save
much. The
lifetime subscriptions
are the $$$, the broken TiVo hardware isn't worth much at all so
you're
still going to pay a couple
hundred bucks if you do find one (I see them from time to time on
ebay but
you need to keep constant
watch).

The thought that occurs to me--I'm not the OP--that one might use the
broken Tivo to get the service, but split the phone line so that the
info goes to a working Tivo without a subscription, as well as the
broken one. If the signal is connected to a one-way buffer, then only
the broken Tivo will respond, but the new one will receive everything.

Norm Strong

Yup, that's what I figured, but thought I might ask.

Thanks,
Chad

"Rob" wrote in message news:[email protected]

"Chad S" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I am looking to buy a "Broken" Tivo 80 Hr. (model TCD240080) with
lifetime
subscription

Does anyone have one for sale or can tell me where to look (other than
eBay - already looked)?

Thanks
Chad



Dunno, but if the idea is to save $$$, you're not going to save much. The
lifetime subscriptions
are the $$$, the broken TiVo hardware isn't worth much at all so you're
still going to pay a couple
hundred bucks if you do find one (I see them from time to time on ebay but
you need to keep constant
watch).

The thought that occurs to me--I'm not the OP--that one might use the
broken Tivo to get the service, but split the phone line so that the
info goes to a working Tivo without a subscription, as well as the
broken one. If the signal is connected to a one-way buffer, then only
the broken Tivo will respond, but the new one will receive everything.

I don't think splitting the phone line will work with modems, as
modems need to negotiate things like speed and line characteristics.
Also there's the issue of which modem the "wiretapper" modem is
supposed to listen to.

Splitting the *SERIAL* line (may take some effort with internal
modems) won't work either. TCP/IP just doesn't do 3-way conversations,
and especially not when none of the parties are expecting it to be
a 3-way conversation. Things like the TCP sequence number and port
number on the TiVo end will almost certainly be different. And
there's the issue of what happens when the "wiretap" TiVo gets the
answer before it asks the question ...

Oh, yes, some of the conversation may be based on the TiVo service
number, which is different between the two TiVos.

Yes, you can get data sent over the line, but it doesn't come in a
form you can just play back into a TiVo and make it accept it. for
each TiVo.

Gordon L. Burditt

normanstrong wrote:

The thought that occurs to me--I'm not the OP--that one might use the
broken Tivo to get the service, but split the phone line so that the
info goes to a working Tivo without a subscription, as well as the
broken one. If the signal is connected to a one-way buffer, then only
the broken Tivo will respond, but the new one will receive everything.

PPP doesn't work that way. There has to be a full-fledged handshake
between the PPP client (your TiVo) and the PPP server (at TiVo) before
any data is useable.
-Joe

In article [email protected], Rob wrote:
Dunno, but if the idea is to save $$$, you're not going to save much. The
lifetime subscriptions are the $$$, the broken TiVo hardware isn't worth much
at all so you're still going to pay a couple hundred bucks if you do find one
(I see them from time to time on ebay but you need to keep constant watch).

Well, I lucked out. I bought a busted Tivo on eBay (the description made it
pretty clear to me that it was simply a hosed hard drive, and I already had a
hard drive to replace it with anyway), intending on using it subscriptionless
(for any new readers -- this obviously means it was a series 1, and I would
have put up with a lot of nag screens).

It ended up having a lifetime subscription. So I got a lifetime subscription
Tivo for about $80 for the unit including shipping. I had to buy a power
cord and eventually bought a 2nd remote (more because my first tivo's remote
works sporadically), and already had the hard drive. It was still a great deal.