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Old August 25th 04, 10:44 AM
Karen
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Default Copying hard drives

My tivo is nearly four years old and I prefer to be pro-active rather than
reactive. So I feel the need to do something soon.

Does it work to use a bootable cd-rom that can be used to read and copy
(clone) one hard drive to another to copy my S1 SA tivo's drive to a drive
of the same size so that I have a back up for when the original eventually
dies?

Could it be used to copy a 30GB drive to a 60GB drive? would that only
result in having the recording capacity of the smaller drive?

This is a partial description of what this cd-rom has to offer.

New professional hard drive copier ( clone )

Using the new direct DMA support

Data can be copied from hard drives in high speed mode

with speeds up to 3.3 GB per minute .

This is achieved through intelligent inspection of the PC motherboard

and the hard drive controller .

Independently determines the fastest data transmission rate

and achieves these exceptional speeds through

optimal utilization of the DMA chipset on the motherboard of your PC .

Can be started directly from a boot diskette .

Copying process is always based on the physical drive

and is independent of the file system

( e.g. FAT12, FAT16, FAT32, HPFS, NTFS, Ext2, Reiser, etc. )

or the number of partitions .



Thanks, I've already learned a lot from you people, but I'm just not
technically saavy enough to do more than what I've described above.

KD


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Old August 25th 04, 11:31 PM
MegaZone
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"Karen" shaped the electrons to say:
Does it work to use a bootable cd-rom that can be used to read and copy
(clone) one hard drive to another to copy my S1 SA tivo's drive to a drive
of the same size so that I have a back up for when the original eventually
dies?


Do not use copying programs that weren't written for TiVo. There are
already tools that do what you want to do:
http://www.newreleasesvideo.com/hinsdale-how-to/

You can also buy ready to run CDs from PTVUpgrade.com.

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Old August 25th 04, 11:31 PM
MegaZone
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"Karen" shaped the electrons to say:
Does it work to use a bootable cd-rom that can be used to read and copy
(clone) one hard drive to another to copy my S1 SA tivo's drive to a drive
of the same size so that I have a back up for when the original eventually
dies?


Do not use copying programs that weren't written for TiVo. There are
already tools that do what you want to do:
http://www.newreleasesvideo.com/hinsdale-how-to/

You can also buy ready to run CDs from PTVUpgrade.com.

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
URL:http://www.megazone.org/ URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Eris
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Old August 26th 04, 03:34 AM
Matt Ackeret
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In article , Karen wrote:
My tivo is nearly four years old and I prefer to be pro-active rather than
reactive. So I feel the need to do something soon.

Does it work to use a bootable cd-rom that can be used to read and copy
(clone) one hard drive to another to copy my S1 SA tivo's drive to a drive
of the same size so that I have a back up for when the original eventually
dies?

Could it be used to copy a 30GB drive to a 60GB drive? would that only
result in having the recording capacity of the smaller drive?


I have no idea if the backup programs you are talking about will work.
If they do an absolute bit for bit copy, then presumably they would.

If they try to understand the filesystem, they won't, and at worst they'll
damage your existing drive.. (That's very unlikely but if you accidentally
try to "Verify" the source volume it's possible.)

Even bit for bit copies *WILL* result in Tivo only thinking it has 30 hours
available.

Some really low level geeky instructions on how you can do a backup/upgrade
yourself are at:
http://www.newreleasesvideo.com/hins...to/index9.html


You can also buy preformatted drives from weeknees.com, but (1) they're
way more expensive than doing it yourself, and (2) it doesn't actually answer
what you're asking for (I just provide it for completeness for the
semi-technophobes.. But if you can (1) use Usenet, and (2) open the
Tivo to actually put in a preformatted drive, you can do it yourself.)
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Old August 26th 04, 03:34 AM
Matt Ackeret
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In article , Karen wrote:
My tivo is nearly four years old and I prefer to be pro-active rather than
reactive. So I feel the need to do something soon.

Does it work to use a bootable cd-rom that can be used to read and copy
(clone) one hard drive to another to copy my S1 SA tivo's drive to a drive
of the same size so that I have a back up for when the original eventually
dies?

Could it be used to copy a 30GB drive to a 60GB drive? would that only
result in having the recording capacity of the smaller drive?


I have no idea if the backup programs you are talking about will work.
If they do an absolute bit for bit copy, then presumably they would.

If they try to understand the filesystem, they won't, and at worst they'll
damage your existing drive.. (That's very unlikely but if you accidentally
try to "Verify" the source volume it's possible.)

Even bit for bit copies *WILL* result in Tivo only thinking it has 30 hours
available.

Some really low level geeky instructions on how you can do a backup/upgrade
yourself are at:
http://www.newreleasesvideo.com/hins...to/index9.html


You can also buy preformatted drives from weeknees.com, but (1) they're
way more expensive than doing it yourself, and (2) it doesn't actually answer
what you're asking for (I just provide it for completeness for the
semi-technophobes.. But if you can (1) use Usenet, and (2) open the
Tivo to actually put in a preformatted drive, you can do it yourself.)
 




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