Tivo / DirecTv / Pioneer violate PRIVACY

"Robert M." wrote
Absitively. I didnt watch it, and my wife wouldn't know what
it was to watch it, and it wasn't addressed to her.

You don't seem to be the type to ever request information
from a TiVo gold-star menu entry, so perhaps you were not
aware that you usually don't have to actually watch one to
get literature mailed to you; one of the entries after entering
the gold-star submenu is to request information -- not for
viewing anything at all but a text screen.

I'm not sure of the defaults on that screen, but I think it's
well within the realm of possibility that someone accidentally
entered this submenu and requested information without
realizing it. All you have to do is click OK or something like
that and you exit the menu at the same time. Maybe someone
did this by accident vs. exiting the submenu by canceling it.

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:59:00 -0600, Bao H. Lammy wrote:

You don't seem to be the type to ever request information
from a TiVo gold-star menu entry, so perhaps you were not
aware that you usually don't have to actually watch one to
get literature mailed to you; one of the entries after entering
the gold-star submenu is to request information -- not for
viewing anything at all but a text screen.

That's always a good possibility, but the text of this particular letter
did say "Thank you for _watching_..." (emphasis mine).

--
Lenroc

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:59:00 -0600, Bao H. Lammy wrote:

You don't seem to be the type to ever request information
from a TiVo gold-star menu entry, so perhaps you were not
aware that you usually don't have to actually watch one to
get literature mailed to you; one of the entries after entering
the gold-star submenu is to request information -- not for
viewing anything at all but a text screen.

That's always a good possibility, but the text of this particular letter
did say "Thank you for _watching_..." (emphasis mine).

--
Lenroc

In article ,
"Jack Ak" wrote:

...

Did you opt out of third party offering notifications
as detailed in section IV of the DirecTV privacy policy?

http://www.directv.com/learn/pdf/dtv...policy_eng.pdf

If you asked to be placed on the "do not contact" list,
your name and address may have been released before
you opted out. As with most other companies you do business
with, you must take action to keep your name and address
from being shared with 3rd parties.

Yes. I have been with DirecTv for 7 years. Opted out on day 1.

In article ,
"Jack Ak" wrote:

...

Did you opt out of third party offering notifications
as detailed in section IV of the DirecTV privacy policy?

http://www.directv.com/learn/pdf/dtv...policy_eng.pdf

If you asked to be placed on the "do not contact" list,
your name and address may have been released before
you opted out. As with most other companies you do business
with, you must take action to keep your name and address
from being shared with 3rd parties.

Yes. I have been with DirecTv for 7 years. Opted out on day 1.

In article m,
Lenroc wrote:

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:59:00 -0600, Bao H. Lammy wrote:

You don't seem to be the type to ever request information
from a TiVo gold-star menu entry, so perhaps you were not
aware that you usually don't have to actually watch one to
get literature mailed to you; one of the entries after entering
the gold-star submenu is to request information -- not for
viewing anything at all but a text screen.

That's always a good possibility, but the text of this particular letter
did say "Thank you for _watching_..." (emphasis mine).

and I didn't watch or enter. Ever since the lame Logitech showcase a
year ago, I flat ignore them all.

In article m,
Lenroc wrote:

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:59:00 -0600, Bao H. Lammy wrote:

You don't seem to be the type to ever request information
from a TiVo gold-star menu entry, so perhaps you were not
aware that you usually don't have to actually watch one to
get literature mailed to you; one of the entries after entering
the gold-star submenu is to request information -- not for
viewing anything at all but a text screen.

That's always a good possibility, but the text of this particular letter
did say "Thank you for _watching_..." (emphasis mine).

and I didn't watch or enter. Ever since the lame Logitech showcase a
year ago, I flat ignore them all.

"Robert M." wrote in message
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I have a DirecTivo. I have my account annotated for privacy and Tivo
configured to not pass personal information.

Imagine my surprise, when I get USPS junk mail today from Pioneer
promoting their DVD Recorders that starts:

"Thank you for watching our video presentation on the TiVo Showcase."

Problems:

1. DirecTv is not supposed to pass my name to 3rd parties.

2. Tivo is not supposed to be harvesting my name.

3. I NEVER WATCHED the Pioneer TiVo Showcase.

4. Pioneer includes Rebate coupns that go to Phoenix, Arizona.
That means its Continental promotions, who have an
abyssmal record for fulfilling rebates. Just ask Iomega.



So did Pioneer just buy my name from my Tivo dealer and lie to me? Or
did Tivo or DirecTv lie to me about their privacy policy?

Stay tuned for further details.

Considering your are dealing with DirecTV the company that has sued over
20,000 people without proof of signal theft. Sent over 100,000 extortion
letters to dead people, dogs and people that don't own a dish or haven't
stole their signal. Not to mention the two pending RICO lawsuits against
them. DirecTV does what they want without any regard for the law because
they are above the law.

The short answer is they do what they want.

"Robert M." wrote in message
...
I have a DirecTivo. I have my account annotated for privacy and Tivo
configured to not pass personal information.

Imagine my surprise, when I get USPS junk mail today from Pioneer
promoting their DVD Recorders that starts:

"Thank you for watching our video presentation on the TiVo Showcase."

Problems:

1. DirecTv is not supposed to pass my name to 3rd parties.

2. Tivo is not supposed to be harvesting my name.

3. I NEVER WATCHED the Pioneer TiVo Showcase.

4. Pioneer includes Rebate coupns that go to Phoenix, Arizona.
That means its Continental promotions, who have an
abyssmal record for fulfilling rebates. Just ask Iomega.



So did Pioneer just buy my name from my Tivo dealer and lie to me? Or
did Tivo or DirecTv lie to me about their privacy policy?

Stay tuned for further details.

Considering your are dealing with DirecTV the company that has sued over
20,000 people without proof of signal theft. Sent over 100,000 extortion
letters to dead people, dogs and people that don't own a dish or haven't
stole their signal. Not to mention the two pending RICO lawsuits against
them. DirecTV does what they want without any regard for the law because
they are above the law.

The short answer is they do what they want.

In article il.com,
Lenroc wrote:

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 00:07:16 +0000, Robert M. wrote:

Absitively. I didnt watch it, and my wife wouldn't know what it was to
watch it,

You give your wife a lot of credit there, eh?

Gold Star items are awfully attractive, at times...

and it wasn't addressed to her.

That would hardly matter if your name is on the account.

Nope, she just watches for Free weekends. Free Starz this weekend!
She wouldnt watch a showcase, it'd take from her Law & Order or CSI
watching time. Before Tivo it was Columbo, before that Banachek.