Help on speakers

I been looking at Klipsh and JBL speakers at Best buy and need help.
I don't understand Freq. Response. What is ideal? I also went to
Paradigm web site and their Freq. Responses don't go as low as these
do, Is this good or Bad?
Also do you suggest other setups? Not to exceed $2,000
Note:12inch subs may be too much for my home might stay at 10inch.
Klipsh High:
Front Left & Right SF-2 freq. Response 35Hz-20kHz $650
Center SC-1 freq. Response 60Hz-20kHz $280
Rear Left & Right SS-5 freq. Response 70Hz-20kHz $280
Sub woofer KSW-12 440 Watts 12 inch $500
Total $1,710

Klipsh Low:
Front Left & Right SF-1 freq. Response 40Hz-20kHz $500
Center SC.5 freq. Response 70Hz-20kHz $180
Rear Left & Right SS-5 freq. Response 70Hz-20kHz $280
Sub woofer KSW-10 225 Watts 10 inch $400
Total $1,360

JBL High:
Front Left & Right E-80 freq. Response 38Hz-20kHz $600
Center EC-35 freq. Response 80Hz-20kHz $300
Rear Left & Right E-20 freq. Response 70Hz-20kHz $180
Sub woofer E-250P 250 Watts 12inch $450
Total $1,530

JBL Low:
Front Left & Right E-60 freq. Response 40Hz-20kHz $500
Center EC-25 freq. Response 80Hz-20kHz $200
Rear Left & Right SS-5 freq. Response 70Hz-20kHz $280
Sub woofer E-150P 150 Watts 10 inch $350
Total $1,330

Edward

"Edward" wrote in message
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I been looking at Klipsh and JBL speakers at Best buy and need help.
I don't understand Freq. Response. What is ideal? I also went to
Paradigm web site and their Freq. Responses don't go as low as these
do, Is this good or Bad?

The thing you have to remember is how the speakers are rated. Without a +/-
spec, it's useless. The others could be rated with a +/- 6db rating, meaning
that the given frequency response could vary as much as 6 db in either
direction. No spec is given, so you can bet it's a pretty high number.

On the other hand, Paradigm speakers are rated at +/- 2 db, meaning a better
frequency response with no peaks or valleys, and a more accurate and
pleasing sound. Plus Paradigm would be quite a few steps up from Best Buy
speakers.




Also do you suggest other setups? Not to exceed $2,000
Note:12inch subs may be too much for my home might stay at 10inch.
Klipsh High:
Front Left & Right SF-2 freq. Response 35Hz-20kHz $650
Center SC-1 freq. Response 60Hz-20kHz $280
Rear Left & Right SS-5 freq. Response 70Hz-20kHz $280
Sub woofer KSW-12 440 Watts 12 inch $500
Total $1,710


You can stop right there. For that much money, you can get Paradigm Studio
Reference speakers which will expose those Best Buy speakers for the low
cost, mass produced junk they are.

"Edward" wrote in message
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I been looking at Klipsh and JBL speakers at Best buy and need help.
I don't understand Freq. Response. What is ideal? I also went to
Paradigm web site and their Freq. Responses don't go as low as these
do, Is this good or Bad?
Also do you suggest other setups? Not to exceed $2,000
Note:12inch subs may be too much for my home might stay at 10inch.
SNIP
Edward


I would suggest looking at the Athena Technologies speakers at Best Buy -
they are IMO the best ones there.







Dennis

Edward wrote:
I been looking at Klipsh and JBL
speakers at Best buy and need help.

Bill wrote:
That's a mistake...never go to a chain
store to buy speakers of any kind.
Electronics you can get there if you
wish.
If you want to hear good speakers, visit
an audio/video shop that specializes in
quality sound. You can find much better
sounding speakers for the same price.

OK I have owned nothing but Klipsch Speakers since 1980. I currently own
a set that was bought from an Audio/Video store (Sound Advice) in 1997.

So, now that Best Buy is now selling Klipsch, and the Audio/Video store
where I bought my Klipsch in 97 is STILL selling Klipsch, why would you
tell someone that buying them from Best Buy is a mistake?

You say it's ok to buy "electronics" but not speakers, why is that?

What makes buying a Yamaha reciever or a Mits.TV from Best Buy, any
different than buying a set of Klipsch speakers at Best Buy?

In article , Ron
wrote:

So, now that Best Buy is now selling Klipsch, and the Audio/Video store
where I bought my Klipsch in 97 is STILL selling Klipsch, why would you
tell someone that buying them from Best Buy is a mistake?

The problem is that Best Buy is only selling selected speakers from
the "S" series. For home theatre, it is the "R" Reference Series
speakers that you want. Another issue with Klipsch is that the
surrounds are only sold in pairs, but you need 3 for a 6.1 system.
I ended up using a center speaker for the back channel.

-john-

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I have read alot of reviews and posts on here about paradigm speakers so
I went out to the local dealer. I was blown away by there sound. I got
the titans for my surrounds and paid 200. I don't think for the same
money you can beat them and will be the brand I look at when I buy in
the future. Do yourself a favor and go listen to paradigm before you
actually buy anything.

Joe

"Bill" wrote in message ...
Edward wrote:

I been looking at Klipsh and JBL speakers at Best buy and need help.

That's a mistake...never go to a chain store to buy speakers of any
kind. Electronics you can get there if you wish.


Well, there is one speaker line that Best Buy carries that is worth serious
consideration - Athena Technologies. Granted, Best Buy has a horrible
environment for trying to listen to them, but these are nice speakers - from
the API speaker family (one of Canada's great speaker manufacturers - the
sister companies are Energy and Mirage).







Dennis




If you want to hear good speakers, visit an audio/video shop that
specializes in quality sound. You can find much better sounding speakers
for the same price.

I don't understand Freq. Response. What is ideal?

Ideal is 20-20,000Hz +/- 0.0 dB, but since that doesn't exist in the
real world, it doesn't really matter.

And frequency response doesn't tell you much about the quality of sound
the speaker can reproduce - there's a lot more to accurate sound than
just frequency response.

You need to hear the speakers to realize how accurate they are at
reproducing the correct timbre of various sounds. Any speaker can blurt
out a sound, but whether or not it sounds true to the original source is
another story.

There is also the soundfield it produces - imaging and soundstaging are
critical to good music reproduction. It also helps in a properly tuned
surround sound system - the sounds are much fuller and more enveloping.

I also went to
Paradigm web site and their Freq. Responses don't go as low as these
do, Is this good or Bad?

It's good.

In fact, similar Paradigm speakers not only go as low as the JBL or
Klipsch speakers you'll find at Best Buy, they sound much better at
those low frequencies, with a cleaner, tighter response.

And that's just the bass response.

Total $1,710

If you're willing to spend that much at Best Buy on speakers, shop
around at some audio/video stores and see what you like there. Take a
look (listen) at Paradigm, PSB, NHT, B&W, Def Tech, Mirage, Energy, and
a host of other brands.

You'll be glad you did.

"Bill" wrote in message ...
Dennis' Newsgroups wrote:

"Bill" wrote in message
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Edward wrote:

I been looking at Klipsh and JBL speakers at Best buy and need help.

That's a mistake...never go to a chain store to buy speakers of any
kind. Electronics you can get there if you wish.

Well, there is one speaker line that Best Buy carries that is worth
serious
consideration - Athena Technologies. Granted, Best Buy has a horrible
environment for trying to listen to them, but these are nice speakers -
from
the API speaker family (one of Canada's great speaker manufacturers - the
sister companies are Energy and Mirage).

Oh, I didn't realize they were of any decent quality. I'll have to give
them a listen...thanks for the heads-up.


Yes, they are good - I was surprised when I heard that Best Buy would be
selling them. It gives an option to buy there. I hope they sell well there
and the sales reps steer people to audition them because the typical BB
electronics shopper is blinded by brandnames they recognize only.




Dennis