NBC Starting Shows At ?:59

You know they are doing this just to **** people with PVRs off. I

Doesn't NBC have a stake in TiVo?

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:10:34 -0600, MrPaul wrote:

Is anyone else aggrivated by the fact that NBC (maybe just my local
affiliate) is starting shows during primetime at like 6:59. Now I got
to setup manual recordings in order to record shows that run from 6-7
or 7-8.

You know they are doing this just to **** people with PVRs off. I
really don't understand because there is just a good a chance of the
person with the season pass missing whatever NBC has on.

Oh well....anyone have a good snail mail address to complain to?

They are doing this to sell extra slots of commercial time, during the airing of their
popular shows. And it sure sucks for us PVR users.


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* Timothy J Trace Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo, on 2004-01-26:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:10:34 -0600, MrPaul wrote:

Is anyone else aggrivated by the fact that NBC (maybe just my local
affiliate) is starting shows during primetime at like 6:59. Now I got
to setup manual recordings in order to record shows that run from 6-7
or 7-8.

You know they are doing this just to **** people with PVRs off. I
really don't understand because there is just a good a chance of the
person with the season pass missing whatever NBC has on.

Oh well....anyone have a good snail mail address to complain to?

They are doing this to sell extra slots of commercial time, during the airing of their
popular shows. And it sure sucks for us PVR users.

Not if you have a DirecTivo.

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"Timothy J. Trace" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:10:34 -0600, MrPaul wrote:

Is anyone else aggrivated by the fact that NBC (maybe just my local
affiliate) is starting shows during primetime at like 6:59. Now I got
to setup manual recordings in order to record shows that run from 6-7
or 7-8.

You know they are doing this just to **** people with PVRs off. I
really don't understand because there is just a good a chance of the
person with the season pass missing whatever NBC has on.

Oh well....anyone have a good snail mail address to complain to?

They are doing this to sell extra slots of commercial time, during the
airing of their
popular shows. And it sure sucks for us PVR users.

I am convinced that they do this just to screw the PVR users in the regard
that they will have to cancel another networks shows that show right before
to tape theirs. There is no other reason. It's stupid.




Best regards,

Tim ==
(substitute 'tcsys.com' for 'nospam.co.uk')
_________________

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HDVR2 @ 243 hours

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"John Poutre" wrote
They are doing this to sell extra slots of commercial time, during the
airing of their popular shows. And it sure sucks for us PVR users.
I am convinced that they do this just to screw the PVR users in the regard
that they will have to cancel another networks shows that show right before
to tape theirs. There is no other reason. It's stupid.

There are not enough PVR users for NBC to do this to thwart them.
They charge a lot more for ads during very popular shows than other
shows. So, they make the very popular shows longer to make more
money. If you don't believe this, you don't have to.

In article ,
Timothy J. Trace wrote:
They are doing this to sell extra slots of commercial time, during the airing
of their popular shows.

This argument has validity for the "er" and "Friends" examples, it does not
have validity for many others.

For example, AFAIK, Fear Factor gets FAR FAR FAR higher ratings than Las Vegas.

Yet Fear Factor has a :59 length, Las Vegas has a 1:00 length, and
Average Joe 2 has a 1:01 length.

In the case of "er", it was actually good, because it (except for one
likely intentional screwup this year), it allowed us to get all of er *without*
manual padding. You still need to post-pad Friends though.

In these Monday examples, it is definitely *bad* because the shows *ARE*
starting on the actual hour (which is good for manual-recordings at least),
but they have these funky official timeslots. For example, several of the
commercials at the end of Fear Factor and the end credits were in the Las
Vegas recording. This doesn't bother me, but for shows that have an 'end gag'
or ones that I want to keep (usually just 'er'), it does.

Interesting. I don't record those shows, but if you did it manually
wouldn't it work? I'm relatively new, though, so I'm not quite sure.

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"Timothy J. Trace" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:10:34 -0600, MrPaul wrote:

Is anyone else aggrivated by the fact that NBC (maybe just my local
affiliate) is starting shows during primetime at like 6:59. Now I got
to setup manual recordings in order to record shows that run from 6-7
or 7-8.

You know they are doing this just to **** people with PVRs off. I
really don't understand because there is just a good a chance of the
person with the season pass missing whatever NBC has on.

Oh well....anyone have a good snail mail address to complain to?

They are doing this to sell extra slots of commercial time, during the
airing of their
popular shows. And it sure sucks for us PVR users.

I am convinced that they do this just to screw the PVR users in the regard
that they will have to cancel another networks shows that show right before
to tape theirs. There is no other reason. It's stupid.




Best regards,

Tim ==
(substitute 'tcsys.com' for 'nospam.co.uk')
_________________

HDR212 @ 246 hours, Turbonet, "Electriclegs"
HDVR2 @ 243 hours

Visit the Surrender Dorothy web !! (http://dorothyrocks.com)
Visit the Crunch Monkey web !! (http://crunchmonkey.com)

"Fustanella" wrote in message
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You know they are doing this just to **** people with PVRs off. I

Doesn't NBC have a stake in TiVo?

Uh, doesn't (MS)NBC have a stake in UltimateTV? somehow, and this is purely
a guess, I wouldn't be surprised if UltimateTV was able to deal with this
sort of thing better than competing products. That is, at least to the
extent that you will not miss any of the NBC program...

Uh, doesn't (MS)NBC have a stake in UltimateTV?

What, that old thing?

Darrell wrote:

Uh, doesn't (MS)NBC have a stake in UltimateTV? somehow, and this is purely
a guess, I wouldn't be surprised if UltimateTV was able to deal with this
sort of thing better than competing products. That is, at least to the
extent that you will not miss any of the NBC program...

Microsoft created UltimateTV, yes, but it's pretty much an end-of-life
product. Microsoft aren't spending much (any?) effort on the software
(we got a version upgrade last year, but it's doubtful if any more will
come out) and the development team has been reassigned to other projects.

UTV has default "record 1 minute before start time, end 5 minutes after
end time" (unless the recording schedule conflicts, in which case the
extended times are truncated accordingly) and, like the DirecTiVo, has
two tuners. If there are no other recording conflicts, a show starting
at :59 is likely to be recorded by UTV properly, even if the guide says
it starts on the hour.

Despite it being a Microsoft product (and me very much not a proponent
of Microsoft), the UTV box was actually a nice piece of kit! I'll be
sad when mine dies and I eventually have to get a DirecTiVo (now a
DirecTiVo with SA feature software - grouping of recordings, ethernet
access etc - would be an easier migration :-) )

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