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Old January 9th 04, 09:42 AM
Lynn
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Hi all. I have a HDVR2 with 2 turner hookup. I setup to record a
program and didn't realize one of the hookup was loose. It is recording
a blank screen. Anyway, my question is how do the tivo decide which
turner to use since the machine is off and the other turner is not being
use? Is there anyway to make the recording on a specific turner?
Thanks in advance.

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Old January 9th 04, 07:18 PM
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"Lynn" wrote in message
...
Hi all. I have a HDVR2 with 2 turner hookup. I setup to record a
program and didn't realize one of the hookup was loose. It is recording
a blank screen. Anyway, my question is how do the tivo decide which
turner to use since the machine is off and the other turner is not being
use? Is there anyway to make the recording on a specific turner?
Thanks in advance.


Since this is propitary information I assume it would take a tivo coder to
know...

But if it were my guess I think it works like this.

If there is no confilict, use the tunner that is not currently being used.
That way the user can still use the buffer feature on the channel it was
left on. The channel they are more intrested in.

Or if they were programming for a future tivo that has 3 tunners they would
just write some sub routine that returns the mutex for the first available
tunner...

I guess you could test this couldn't you?


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Old January 9th 04, 08:29 PM
Jack Ak
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"Ted" wrote in message ...

"Lynn" wrote in message
...
Hi all. I have a HDVR2 with 2 turner hookup. I setup to record a
program and didn't realize one of the hookup was loose. It is recording
a blank screen. Anyway, my question is how do the tivo decide which
turner to use since the machine is off and the other turner is not being
use? Is there anyway to make the recording on a specific turner?
Thanks in advance.


Since this is propitary information I assume it would take a tivo coder to
know...

But if it were my guess I think it works like this.

If there is no confilict, use the tunner that is not currently being used.
That way the user can still use the buffer feature on the channel it was
left on. The channel they are more intrested in.

Or if they were programming for a future tivo that has 3 tunners they would
just write some sub routine that returns the mutex for the first available
tunner...

I guess you could test this couldn't you?



A DirecTV DVR will always use the "other" tuner for a scheduled recording
unless the viewed tuner is tuned to the scheduled channel. When this occurs, one
can be behind in viewing the live buffer and continue viewing, pausing, rewinding,
etc in the live buffer until the start point of the scheduled recording is reached.
Prior live buffer content disappears at this point and you start watching the live
buffer as it is used in saving the recording.

If two recordings are scheduled to start at the same time, live buffer content will be
available on the viewed tuner for up to 30 minutes before recording start as above.
If you pause this buffer until the scheduled recording ends, the buffer is emptied
at the same time the recording ends.
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Old January 9th 04, 09:28 PM
Lynn
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Thanks for the reply. How can I tell which is the "other" turner? Is satellite input #1 the
"other" turner? Thanks.

Jack Ak wrote:

"Ted" wrote in message ...

"Lynn" wrote in message
...
Hi all. I have a HDVR2 with 2 turner hookup. I setup to record a
program and didn't realize one of the hookup was loose. It is recording
a blank screen. Anyway, my question is how do the tivo decide which
turner to use since the machine is off and the other turner is not being
use? Is there anyway to make the recording on a specific turner?
Thanks in advance.


Since this is propitary information I assume it would take a tivo coder to
know...

But if it were my guess I think it works like this.

If there is no confilict, use the tunner that is not currently being used.
That way the user can still use the buffer feature on the channel it was
left on. The channel they are more intrested in.

Or if they were programming for a future tivo that has 3 tunners they would
just write some sub routine that returns the mutex for the first available
tunner...

I guess you could test this couldn't you?



A DirecTV DVR will always use the "other" tuner for a scheduled recording
unless the viewed tuner is tuned to the scheduled channel. When this occurs, one
can be behind in viewing the live buffer and continue viewing, pausing, rewinding,
etc in the live buffer until the start point of the scheduled recording is reached.
Prior live buffer content disappears at this point and you start watching the live
buffer as it is used in saving the recording.

If two recordings are scheduled to start at the same time, live buffer content will be
available on the viewed tuner for up to 30 minutes before recording start as above.
If you pause this buffer until the scheduled recording ends, the buffer is emptied
at the same time the recording ends.


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Old January 9th 04, 10:56 PM
David G.
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Lynn wrote:
Thanks for the reply. How can I tell which is the "other" turner?
Is satellite input #1 the "other" turner? Thanks.


The "Other" tuner is the tuner that is not currently sending a signal to
your TV. Despite the fact that the DirecTV has two tuners, they cannot
both be active for TV viewing at the same time (e.g.
picture-in-picture). So if you have tuner 1 on Channel 10 and tuner 2 on
Channel 50, and you are currently watching channel 50, you are using
tuner 2 (what you see on the TV). If the Tivo needs to record Channel
75, then it will use tuner 1 which is currently tuned to Channel 10. If
you had watched channel 10 in the last 15-30 minutes (not actually sure
the time limit), Tivo will warn you about a minute before recording that
it needs to use the other tuner to record channel 75. You can, at that
point, tell Tivo "No, I don't want you to do that", or "Yes, go ahead".
Not answering causes Tivo to use the tuner and record - it assumes you
are away and likely want to record what you have scheduled.

--
David G.

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Old January 9th 04, 10:59 PM
Jack Ak
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The "other tuner" is always the tuner you are not viewing.

Satellite input 1 is receiving an odd or even numbered transponder,
and the other input is receiving an "opposite" polarity transponder.

The two tuners switch between the two satellite inputs (odd/even
transponder) as needed for tuning a channel.

When you are viewing/recording two channels on the same transponder,
the other satellite input is not being used.

You could say satellite input 1 is receiving odd numbered transponders
and satellite input 2 is receiving even numbered transponders, but you
might be wrong. It doesn't matter since both odd/even numbered transponders
are available to each tuner.

"Lynn" wrote in message ...
Thanks for the reply. How can I tell which is the "other" turner? Is satellite input #1 the
"other" turner? Thanks.

Jack Ak wrote:

"Ted" wrote in message ...

"Lynn" wrote in message
...
Hi all. I have a HDVR2 with 2 turner hookup. I setup to record a
program and didn't realize one of the hookup was loose. It is recording
a blank screen. Anyway, my question is how do the tivo decide which
turner to use since the machine is off and the other turner is not being
use? Is there anyway to make the recording on a specific turner?
Thanks in advance.


Since this is propitary information I assume it would take a tivo coder to
know...

But if it were my guess I think it works like this.

If there is no confilict, use the tunner that is not currently being used.
That way the user can still use the buffer feature on the channel it was
left on. The channel they are more intrested in.

Or if they were programming for a future tivo that has 3 tunners they would
just write some sub routine that returns the mutex for the first available
tunner...

I guess you could test this couldn't you?



A DirecTV DVR will always use the "other" tuner for a scheduled recording
unless the viewed tuner is tuned to the scheduled channel. When this occurs, one
can be behind in viewing the live buffer and continue viewing, pausing, rewinding,
etc in the live buffer until the start point of the scheduled recording is reached.
Prior live buffer content disappears at this point and you start watching the live
buffer as it is used in saving the recording.

If two recordings are scheduled to start at the same time, live buffer content will be
available on the viewed tuner for up to 30 minutes before recording start as above.
If you pause this buffer until the scheduled recording ends, the buffer is emptied
at the same time the recording ends.


 




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