Freeview retune

On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 08:13:49 +0100
"tim..." wrote:

True Entertainment is meant to be on 61

yesterday (no capital letter) it moved to 800 and today it is on
790

The version on 790 is the old version on COM 6 that is to be
discontinued in a few days. After a rescan if you're not getting a
version of it on its new allocation of 48, then you can't get the
local TV mux it's been moved to

I'm in London

The box seems to have made all these moves for itself I assume it has
some form of automatic retune.

I receive Tacolneston, a pretty major antenna. I retuned so that True
entertainment was on 790, then today it tells me to retune again. No
True Entertainment on 48 or 790. I followed the link provided, which led
me through a tortuous set of webpages, only to find that it should be
available on Ch. 48, but no explanation as to why it isn't.
Where do I find out about this 'local MUX'?

This is the most frustrating and unhelpful channel upgrade to date, and
that is saying something!

--
Davey.

On 01/07/2019 13:12, Davey wrote:

Where do I find out about this 'local MUX'?

For you, here

https://www.thats.tv/norfolk/

If you don't get That's Norfolk (formally Mustard TV) on EPG Ch 7 then
you can't receive the local mux (it's on UHF ch 32 from Taccy, but only
beamed north)



--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

Davey wrote:

I receive Tacolneston, a pretty major antenna. I retuned so that True
entertainment was on 790, then today it tells me to retune again. No
True Entertainment on 48 or 790. I followed the link provided, which led
me through a tortuous set of webpages, only to find that it should be
available on Ch. 48, but no explanation as to why it isn't.
Where do I find out about this 'local MUX'?

Do you receive MustardTV? it's the main station within the local mux on
UHF ch32

This is the most frustrating and unhelpful channel upgrade to date, and
that is saying something!

How old is your aerial, was it replaced for DSO? if not you might still
have a group C/D, ch32 is well below that.

On 01/07/2019 13:29, Andy Burns wrote:
Davey wrote:

I receive Tacolneston, a pretty major antenna. I retuned so that True
entertainment was on 790, then today it tells me to retune again. No
True Entertainment on 48 or 790. I followed the link provided, which led
me through a tortuous set of webpages, only to find that it should be
available on Ch. 48, but no explanation as to why it isn't.
Where do I find out about this 'local MUX'?

Do you receive MustardTV? it's the main station within the local mux on
UHF ch32

This is the most frustrating and unhelpful channel upgrade to date, and
that is saying something!

How old is your aerial, was it replaced for DSO? if not you might still
have a group C/D, ch32 is well below that.

I am 10 miles from Midhurst, more or less line-of-sight
and some of the people with outside group C/D aerials,
mounted on standard 4 foot cranked poles, say they have
no problem getting Quest, even thought that is now on
RF 29.

On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 15:16:35 +0100 tim...
posted:

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
On 28/06/2019 12:53, tim... wrote:


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
On 28/06/2019 10:38, Dickie mint wrote:
No, it's just repositioning following UKTV' split ownership between BBC
and Discovery. And some 'fine tuning' with EPG location.

And some channels moving from COM5 and 6 to the local muxes

True Entertainment is meant to be on 61

yesterday (no capital letter) it moved to 800 and today it is on 790

The version on 790 is the old version on COM 6 that is to be discontinued
in a few days. After a rescan if you're not getting a version of it on its
new allocation of 48, then you can't get the local TV mux it's been moved
to

can anyone tell me where this channel is going?

I can find nothing about it on Google

790 is still on frequency C22 which is where it was when it was channel 61

the new channel 61 (Sony+1) is on frequency C35 which has obviously retuned
itself,

but channel 48 is nowhere

what frequency do I need to manually return to receive it?

(Sorry if I have the terminology wrong)

tim

This is a really useful site that should help you.

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/

Put your postcode and house number in and it tell you what is what,
noticing the extra tick box for what it calls a detailed view. But do
check out the information with and without ticking, as it is different.

For what channel is on which MUX, click on "full channel list" on the
home page.

On Mon 01/07/2019 13:12, Davey wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 08:13:49 +0100
"tim..." wrote:

True Entertainment is meant to be on 61

yesterday (no capital letter) it moved to 800 and today it is on
790

The version on 790 is the old version on COM 6 that is to be
discontinued in a few days. After a rescan if you're not getting a
version of it on its new allocation of 48, then you can't get the
local TV mux it's been moved to

I'm in London

The box seems to have made all these moves for itself I assume it has
some form of automatic retune.

I receive Tacolneston, a pretty major antenna. I retuned so that True
entertainment was on 790, then today it tells me to retune again. No
True Entertainment on 48 or 790. I followed the link provided, which led
me through a tortuous set of webpages, only to find that it should be
available on Ch. 48, but no explanation as to why it isn't.
Where do I find out about this 'local MUX'?

This is the most frustrating and unhelpful channel upgrade to date, and
that is saying something!

It might actually be your TV that is causing it. Either do a full auto
retune (not an update) which will wipe the memory, or start the full
auto and then immediately stop it. This will again have wiped the memory
but will allow you to do the mux scans manually.

We had a LG TV that was a beggar for that - loosing channels when they
had been moved to other muxes. The only way to make it get the stations
right was to do a factory reset and start over.

--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

"Yellow" wrote in message
T...

This is a really useful site that should help you.

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/

Put your postcode and house number in and it tell you what is what,
noticing the extra tick box for what it calls a detailed view. But do
check out the information with and without ticking, as it is different.

Interesting that for my address it regards Bilsdale as the main transmitter,
with some reception (albeit poor) on all multiplexes. However everyone
around here has their aerial pointed at Belmont, which is shown as poor for
PSB1,2,3 and nothing for COM4-8, whereas our aerial can get COM4 and 5 as
well.

One explanation for everyone using Belmont may be that in Yorkshire they
want to be able to get Yorkshire (Hull or Leeds) rather than Newcastle local
news.

On Mon 01/07/2019 16:37, NY wrote:
"Yellow" wrote in message
T...

This is a really useful site that should help you.

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/

Put your postcode and house number in and it tell you what is what,
noticing the extra tick box for what it calls a detailed view. But do
check out the information with and without ticking, as it is different.

Interesting that for my address it regards Bilsdale as the main
transmitter, with some reception (albeit poor) on all multiplexes.
However everyone around here has their aerial pointed at Belmont, which
is shown as poor for PSB1,2,3 and nothing for COM4-8, whereas our aerial
can get COM4 and 5 as well.

One explanation for everyone using Belmont may be that in Yorkshire they
want to be able to get Yorkshire (Hull or Leeds) rather than Newcastle
local news.

Tell that to the people living in the north side of Harrogate behind a
hill so they can only get Bilsdale.

Having said that there are an increasing number of items on Look North
Leeds that relate to the northern parts of North Yorks which cannot
receive any Leeds-based programme, only Look NE. Ergo it follows that
these same items must also be being broadcast on Bilsdale for the far
north residents. We also get items on Leeds from reporters that we have
never seen before some of which have what sounds to be a vaguely Geordie
accent.

The really annoying bit is that the red button news for Yorkshire (1630)
on the York and North Yorks section often has no news related to
Yorkshire at all - Darlington being the nearest. Other places often
coming up are Middlesborough, Hartlepool, Redcar, and Stockton (and
almost always about drugs, attacks, and theft) but nowt about Yorkshire!

--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

On 01/07/19 16:10, Yellow wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 15:16:35 +0100 tim...
posted:

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
On 28/06/2019 12:53, tim... wrote:


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
On 28/06/2019 10:38, Dickie mint wrote:
No, it's just repositioning following UKTV' split ownership between BBC
and Discovery. And some 'fine tuning' with EPG location.

And some channels moving from COM5 and 6 to the local muxes

True Entertainment is meant to be on 61

yesterday (no capital letter) it moved to 800 and today it is on 790

The version on 790 is the old version on COM 6 that is to be discontinued
in a few days. After a rescan if you're not getting a version of it on its
new allocation of 48, then you can't get the local TV mux it's been moved
to

can anyone tell me where this channel is going?

I can find nothing about it on Google

790 is still on frequency C22 which is where it was when it was channel 61

the new channel 61 (Sony+1) is on frequency C35 which has obviously retuned
itself,

but channel 48 is nowhere

what frequency do I need to manually return to receive it?

(Sorry if I have the terminology wrong)

tim

This is a really useful site that should help you.

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/

Put your postcode and house number in and it tell you what is what,
noticing the extra tick box for what it calls a detailed view. But do
check out the information with and without ticking, as it is different.

For what channel is on which MUX, click on "full channel list" on the
home page.

Since A516 stopped listing updates, I find
https://www.terrestrialtv.uk/dtt.cgi?pg=log.php useful.

--

Jeff

"Woody" wrote in message
...
One explanation for everyone using Belmont may be that in Yorkshire they
want to be able to get Yorkshire (Hull or Leeds) rather than Newcastle
local news.

Tell that to the people living in the north side of Harrogate behind a
hill so they can only get Bilsdale.

Having said that there are an increasing number of items on Look North
Leeds that relate to the northern parts of North Yorks which cannot
receive any Leeds-based programme, only Look NE. Ergo it follows that
these same items must also be being broadcast on Bilsdale for the far
north residents. We also get items on Leeds from reporters that we have
never seen before some of which have what sounds to be a vaguely Geordie
accent.

The really annoying bit is that the red button news for Yorkshire (1630)
on the York and North Yorks section often has no news related to Yorkshire
at all - Darlington being the nearest. Other places often coming up are
Middlesborough, Hartlepool, Redcar, and Stockton (and almost always about
drugs, attacks, and theft) but nowt about Yorkshire!

It is frustrating for Bilsdale people that ITV1+1 *used* to be Yorkshire TV
rather than Tyne-Tees, so you could watch the Leeds-based Calendar (an hour
late) instead of the TT equivalent (not sure of its name).

Where we used to live, near Malton, we were in Bilsdale land, because of
Whitwell Hill, but people not far away (and even some a lot further north or
east (Pickering and the various villages between there and Scarborough) got
Emley Moor, even though it was a long way away.

Local ITV news is very poor at covering events in rural Yorkshire. York and
its surrounding villages is OK because it's part of the Leeds-based
catchment area, as is Scarborough because Oliver's Mount carries Emley
Moor's variants. But it's rare to see anything about the Dales or Moors on
TT news.

I'm spoiled now I've got satellite because I can watch/record any of the
regional BBC and ITV news programmes. Unfortunately all the ITV regions have
a channel name of "ITV" on the software (TVHeadend) that I use to record on
my Raspberry Pi (*), so I went through the other night and worked out from
the frequencies and the programme listings which "ITV" was which, and
modified the names accordingly.

Now all I need to do is to get the second DVB-S adaptor working that I
bought: they are the same model but different revisions, and one has a
built-in driver in the Raspbian kernel whereas the guys at Hauppauge are
still working on a driver for the newer revision. Obviously I'll need two
different LNBs and downleads, but it seems that is already the case at our
new house.


(*) Not sure whether that also applies to dedicated Freesat PVRs, but then
they will get proper channel numbers to identify the ITV regions.