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Old October 16th 16, 09:25 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
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On 16/10/2016 20:19, pamela wrote:
Similarly, I've never heard an Islamic muezzin calling worshippers
to prayer who wasn't totally out of tune.


I've never heard a non-Islamic muezzin...

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Old October 16th 16, 09:28 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sunday, 16 October 2016 20:25:21 UTC+1, polygonum wrote:
I've never heard a non-Islamic muezzin...


Isn't that a breach of equal opportunities?

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Old October 16th 16, 09:51 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
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On 16/10/2016 20:38, pamela wrote:
On 20:25 16 Oct 2016, polygonum wrote:

On 16/10/2016 20:19, pamela wrote:

Similarly, I've never heard an Islamic muezzin calling worshippers
to prayer who wasn't totally out of tune.


I've never heard a non-Islamic muezzin...


Unless it's a recording. Which is still often out of tune!

A recording of a non-Islamic muezzin? Never knowingly heard, or even
heard of, one of them.

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Old October 16th 16, 09:54 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast,uk.legal
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , Norman Wells
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If I liked gangsta rap, should I be allowed to broadcast it from a
tower as loud as
bells and for the same duration? Or would I be expected to indulge
that little peccadillo at home and in private?

I don't see any difference.


Well, one difference, though probably not germane to this discussion, is that
gangsta rap, like many forms of music from about the 1930s onwards, depends for
its nature on electronic amplification, whereas bells don't.


Indeed. That makes them even more unpleasant. You can't just go up there and pull
the plug.

Why not disband all the orchestras? There must be multiple recordings of every
classical piece in every significant interpretation by now.


The numbers are diminishing every year for all sorts of reasons, including that
one.

Anyway, do people listen to church bells because of the joy of a live performance
and the thrill of slight nuances in the third tenor or whatever it may be called?


They see it as part of "village life", or some similar concept. While in practice
many of them would not in fact be able to tell whether it was real or a recording
(if good quality and coming from the belfry), most of them would be seriously
cross if they discovered that the latter _was_ the case.


Well, that's totally irrational of course, so I won't pay it any heed. It's
impossible to deal satisfactorily with nutters.


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Old October 16th 16, 10:14 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
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In message , pamela
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Similarly, I've never heard an Islamic muezzin calling worshippers
to prayer who wasn't totally out of tune.


They are probably singing the right notes - but not necessarily in right
order.
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Old October 16th 16, 10:21 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
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On 16/10/2016 21:04, pamela wrote:
The recording may be of an Islamic call but the recording
equipment itself is not Islamic although I dunno - maybe it was
designed in Pakistan and assembled in Indonesia!


I thought only humans followed religions. Surely we don't have tape
recorders that are Catholic, Hindu, atheist, Jain, Buddhist and Baptist
and Jewish?

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Old October 16th 16, 11:25 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
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On 16/10/2016 20:38, pamela wrote:
On 20:25 16 Oct 2016, polygonum wrote:

On 16/10/2016 20:19, pamela wrote:

Similarly, I've never heard an Islamic muezzin calling worshippers
to prayer who wasn't totally out of tune.


I've never heard a non-Islamic muezzin...


Unless it's a recording. Which is still often out of tune!

In tune by their scale, which is *not* the same as ours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makam

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Old October 17th 16, 01:56 AM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 21:21:16 +0100, polygonum
wrote:
On 16/10/2016 21:04, pamela wrote:


The recording may be of an Islamic call but the recording
equipment itself is not Islamic although I dunno - maybe it was
designed in Pakistan and assembled in Indonesia!


I thought only humans followed religions. Surely we don't have tape
recorders that are Catholic, Hindu, atheist, Jain, Buddhist and

Baptist
and Jewish?


What religion are church bells?

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Old October 17th 16, 01:59 AM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
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"Max Demian" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 21:21:16 +0100, polygonum
wrote:
On 16/10/2016 21:04, pamela wrote:


The recording may be of an Islamic call but the recording
equipment itself is not Islamic although I dunno - maybe it was
designed in Pakistan and assembled in Indonesia!


I thought only humans followed religions. Surely we don't have tape
recorders that are Catholic, Hindu, atheist, Jain, Buddhist and

Baptist
and Jewish?


What religion are church bells?


Clackophanism.

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Old October 17th 16, 02:04 AM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast,uk.legal
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 19:21:40 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:
In message , Norman Wells
writes:


Anyway, do people listen to church bells because of the joy of a

live
performance and the thrill of slight nuances in the third tenor or
whatever it may be called?


They see it as part of "village life", or some similar concept.

While in
practice many of them would not in fact be able to tell whether it

was
real or a recording (if good quality and coming from the belfry),

most
of them would be seriously cross if they discovered that the latter
_was_ the case.


A recording of church bells would probably feature nasty distortion
like ice cream vans cranked up to maximum volume.

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