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Old June 7th 16, 10:42 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ian[_14_]
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In message , Mr Pounder Esquire
writes
Pinnerite wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

Superb 1962 film on BBC2 today. Interestingly it was occasionally
possible to see the joins between the three Cinerama pictures. But
mostly it wasn't. How did they do that? I don't know which restored
version the BBC used, but the result was breathtaking. It makes a
pleasant change from some films shown on TV, in which the technical
quality has been dire. Some of the old monochrome British films were
superbly sharp and with beautiful lighting, yet when shown on TV (on
HD) all that fine detail has been lost.

In 'How the west was won' it was also interesting to see the Red
Indians presented as marauding hoards of savages. That wouldn't be
allowed nowadays of course. Nowadays history has to fit the PC
narrative.

Oh, and I could see lots of modern tyre tracks...

Bill


Tyre tracks is that all! In Ben Hur they had an eight wheel vehicle
at top right the first time I saw it. It wasn't there the second
time. Probably drove it away.


I actually did see the little red car going up the hill in a Ben Hur clip
years ago. Seems the clip has been removed.


I saw a Ford Consul/Zephyr go past at the end of a very long country
lane in Tom Jones.
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Old June 7th 16, 01:25 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 09:42:24 +0100, Ian wrote:

I saw a Ford Consul/Zephyr go past at the end of a very long country
lane in Tom Jones.


A white Ford Escort goes across the top right hand corner of a scene in
Lady Carolyn Lamb.

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Old June 7th 16, 02:57 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
charles[_2_]
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In article , Martin
wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:21:43 +0100, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:


Pinnerite wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

Superb 1962 film on BBC2 today. Interestingly it was occasionally
possible to see the joins between the three Cinerama pictures. But
mostly it wasn't. How did they do that? I don't know which restored
version the BBC used, but the result was breathtaking. It makes a
pleasant change from some films shown on TV, in which the technical
quality has been dire. Some of the old monochrome British films were
superbly sharp and with beautiful lighting, yet when shown on TV (on
HD) all that fine detail has been lost.

In 'How the west was won' it was also interesting to see the Red
Indians presented as marauding hoards of savages. That wouldn't be
allowed nowadays of course. Nowadays history has to fit the PC
narrative.

Oh, and I could see lots of modern tyre tracks...

Bill

Tyre tracks is that all! In Ben Hur they had an eight wheel vehicle at
top right the first time I saw it. It wasn't there the second time.
Probably drove it away.


I actually did see the little red car going up the hill in a Ben Hur
clip years ago. Seems the clip has been removed.


Was it Ben Hur or Quo Vadis that had vapour trails in the sky in one
scene?


battle of Bosworth at the end of Richard III

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Old June 7th 16, 03:24 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Max Demian
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 10:42:03 +0200, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:21:43 +0100, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:


Tyre tracks is that all! In Ben Hur they had an eight wheel

vehicle
at top right the first time I saw it. It wasn't there the second
time. Probably drove it away.


I actually did see the little red car going up the hill in a Ben

Hur clip
years ago. Seems the clip has been removed.


Was it Ben Hur or Quo Vadis that had vapour trails in the sky in

one scene?

Contrails must be common in period films if you're looking for them.
Of anyone's making a list, there are some at the start of A Challenge
for Robin Hood (1967), to the left of the castle.

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Old June 7th 16, 06:30 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Peter Duncanson
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 14:24:30 +0100, Max Demian
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 10:42:03 +0200, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:21:43 +0100, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:


Tyre tracks is that all! In Ben Hur they had an eight wheel

vehicle
at top right the first time I saw it. It wasn't there the second
time. Probably drove it away.


I actually did see the little red car going up the hill in a Ben

Hur clip
years ago. Seems the clip has been removed.


Was it Ben Hur or Quo Vadis that had vapour trails in the sky in

one scene?

Contrails must be common in period films if you're looking for them.
Of anyone's making a list, there are some at the start of A Challenge
for Robin Hood (1967), to the left of the castle.


Bur, but, but... Surely alien craft have been crossing our skies leaving
pretty trails since before humans existed?

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Old June 7th 16, 08:00 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Max Demian
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 17:30:00 +0100, Peter Duncanson
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 14:24:30 +0100, Max Demian



Contrails must be common in period films if you're looking for

them.
Of anyone's making a list, there are some at the start of A

Challenge
for Robin Hood (1967), to the left of the castle.


Bur, but, but... Surely alien craft have been crossing our skies

leaving
pretty trails since before humans existed?


You must be thinking of Life of Brian.

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Max Demian
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Old June 7th 16, 08:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Peter Duncanson
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 19:00:29 +0100, Max Demian
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 17:30:00 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 14:24:30 +0100, Max Demian



Contrails must be common in period films if you're looking for

them.
Of anyone's making a list, there are some at the start of A

Challenge
for Robin Hood (1967), to the left of the castle.


Bur, but, but... Surely alien craft have been crossing our skies

leaving
pretty trails since before humans existed?


You must be thinking of Life of Brian.


Something like that. ;-)

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Peter Duncanson
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Old June 8th 16, 11:16 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roger Wilmut[_2_]
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For the poster who asked how the joins in HTWWW were done, it was a
digital shot-by-shot process involving careful colour matching, and
then the alignment of the three panels for as exact a match as
possible. There is a demo reel (no audio) showing before and after at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rix5n-_5V3I

There is a detailed explanation of the process being applied to another
Cinerama film at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX_r6azg-Ug

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Old June 8th 16, 12:14 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 08/06/2016 10:16, Roger Wilmut wrote:
For the poster who asked how the joins in HTWWW were done, it was a
digital shot-by-shot process involving careful colour matching, and then
the alignment of the three panels for as exact a match as possible.
There is a demo reel (no audio) showing before and after at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rix5n-_5V3I

There is a detailed explanation of the process being applied to another
Cinerama film at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX_r6azg-Ug

Thank you Roger.

Bill
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Old June 8th 16, 12:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_3_]
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On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:16:38 +0100, Roger Wilmut
wrote:

For the poster who asked how the joins in HTWWW were done, it was a
digital shot-by-shot process involving careful colour matching, and
then the alignment of the three panels for as exact a match as
possible. There is a demo reel (no audio) showing before and after at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rix5n-_5V3I

There is a detailed explanation of the process being applied to another
Cinerama film at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX_r6azg-Ug


Also on the Blu-Ray disk, which also offers two different ways of
viewing the curved image on a flat screen. One is a wide rectangle,
and the other has the height of the picture increased towards the
edges of the screen, in an attempt to compensate for the apparent
curvature of the scene.

Rod.
 




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