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What I like about Zen, apart from the consistant and reliable
service, is a helpline in the UK staffed by bods who speak
English,
actually listen, and don't religiously follow a script.

Ah, well speak Mancunia - which it seems many south of the Trent
have
difficulty understanding?

grin Well, I'm an Englishman now living in NE Scotland, and don't
have too much trouble with accents :-)
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Must people don't, but my wife has considerable difficulty with
Geordie-ese.

However there have been complaints recently from people 'darn sarf'
that they can't understand Steph on BBC Breakfast because of her
Geordie accent - except that she comes from Middlesbrough!


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What I like about Zen, apart from the consistant and reliable
service, is a helpline in the UK staffed by bods who speak English,
actually listen, and don't religiously follow a script.
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Ah, well speak Mancunia - which it seems many south of the Trent have
difficulty understanding?



I thought they were in proper "Lancashire"....
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Zen Internet elsewhere and they are good, there're very good at
kicking
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+1

What I like about Zen, apart from the consistant and reliable
service, is a helpline in the UK staffed by bods who speak English,
actually listen, and don't religiously follow a script.
--




Ah, well speak Mancunia - which it seems many south of the Trent have
difficulty understanding?

I thought they were in proper "Lancashire"....

"Proper" went by the board decades ago. You can refer to Rochdale in
various ways depending on your purpose. A Rochdale accent is not a
Mancunian accent, except when speaking very loosely.

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Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

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What I like about Zen, apart from the consistant and reliable
service, is a helpline in the UK staffed by bods who speak English,
actually listen, and don't religiously follow a script.

Ah, well speak Mancunia - which it seems many south of the Trent have
difficulty understanding?

grin Well, I'm an Englishman now living in NE Scotland, and don't have
too much trouble with accents :-)
--

Must people don't, but my wife has considerable difficulty with
Geordie-ese.

However there have been complaints recently from people 'darn sarf' that
they can't understand Steph on BBC Breakfast because of her Geordie
accent - except that she comes from Middlesbrough!


The Smoggies accent is totally different from Geordie, or even Mackem.

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tony sayer wrote:
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"News" wrote in message
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In message , tony sayer
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we use
Zen Internet elsewhere and they are good, there're very good at
kicking
Openreach when occasion demands...

+1

What I like about Zen, apart from the consistant and reliable
service, is a helpline in the UK staffed by bods who speak English,
actually listen, and don't religiously follow a script.
--




Ah, well speak Mancunia - which it seems many south of the Trent have
difficulty understanding?

I thought they were in proper "Lancashire"....

"Proper" went by the board decades ago. You can refer to Rochdale in
various ways depending on your purpose. A Rochdale accent is not a
Mancunian accent, except when speaking very loosely.

This seems a good place to ask - can anybody tell me what accent is
spoken by the BBC newsreader called (I think) Cathie Clugston? (I've
never seen the name written down and have to guess the spelling).
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 20:02:55 +0100, Bill Borland
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This seems a good place to ask - can anybody tell me what accent is
spoken by the BBC newsreader called (I think) Cathie Clugston? (I've
never seen the name written down and have to guess the spelling).

She's from Northern Ireland, so her accent sounds to me a bit like a
marriage of NI and RP!
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What I like about Zen, apart from the consistant and reliable
service, is a helpline in the UK staffed by bods who speak
English,
actually listen, and don't religiously follow a script.

Ah, well speak Mancunia - which it seems many south of the Trent
have
difficulty understanding?

grin Well, I'm an Englishman now living in NE Scotland, and
don't have too much trouble with accents :-)
--

Must people don't, but my wife has considerable difficulty with
Geordie-ese.

However there have been complaints recently from people 'darn sarf'
that they can't understand Steph on BBC Breakfast because of her
Geordie accent - except that she comes from Middlesbrough!


The Smoggies accent is totally different from Geordie, or even
Mackem.


We know that but darn sarf..................? (shudder)


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Woody

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However there have been complaints recently from people 'darn sarf' that
they can't understand Steph on BBC Breakfast because of her Geordie
accent - except that she comes from Middlesbrough!


The Smoggies accent is totally different from Geordie, or even Mackem.


We know that but darn sarf..................? (shudder)

To my relatively untutored ear, having been born and brought up in Leeds,
I'd say that is a lot more similarity between the various accents of the
Tyneside/Teesside towns than there is between any one of them and (for
example) Leeds/Manchester/Black Country. OK, so a linguistics expert could
place where the "I'm Jack" hoaxer came from to within a few streets, but
that probably relies on people staying in one place for most of their lives
and not having much influence on their accent from outsiders.

Sometimes it's not just intonation and pronunciation (*how* they speak) as
the words and phrases used (what they say). In Leeds you get "Alan Bennett"
English: the grudging, back-handed praise "She's not an unattractive
lass"="She's a right cracker" and the subject at the end of the sentence
"She's a grand lass, is our Kate" (as opposed to the more normal "Our Kate's
a grand lass"). And then there's the non-standard use of "while" to mean
"until" (as in "no you can't have a biscuit - wait while tea-time"). I'm
sure lots of places have those type of quirks.

The only accents I have a real problem with are very strong "Rab C Nesbitt"
Glaswegian and the Ayrshire accent of 1970s trade union leader Jimmy Knapp.

On 03/06/2016 20:09, Java Jive wrote:

She's from Northern Ireland, so her accent sounds to me a bit like a
marriage of NI and RP!


I used to work for their company, Clugston Asphalt.

Bill

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Sometimes it's not just intonation and pronunciation (*how* they speak) as
the words and phrases used (what they say). In Leeds you get "Alan
Bennett" English: the grudging, back-handed praise "She's not an
unattractive lass"="She's a right cracker" and the subject at the end of
the sentence "She's a grand lass, is our Kate" (as opposed to the more
normal "Our Kate's a grand lass"). And then there's the non-standard use
of "while" to mean "until" (as in "no you can't have a biscuit - wait
while tea-time"). I'm sure lots of places have those type of quirks.

That use is pretty universal throughout the old W Riding - in Sheffield it's
'whilst' rather than 'while.'

Can cause problems to the uninitiated... I think it's probably an urban
myth, but there are stories that when the first automatic level crossings
came in, the sign said:

'Do not cross tracks whilst flashing lights are illuminated'...

The meaning in W Riding English being the exact opposite of the rest of the
country...

James