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On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 14:05:25 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

The manual for my Sony telly is embedded within the TV's menu

Yes, and what a pain in the arse that is. How are you supposed to
refer to the manual page and to the thing that the manual is telling
you about at the same time?

I find the manual didn't answer any of my questions anyway. It tells
you the stuff that is blindingly obvious and doesn't tell you the
nitty-gritty of what you looked in the manual for in the first place.

So you're left to guess and/or fiddle and observe to see if you can
work it out for yourself.
Sometimes you can and other times you just give it up as a waste of time.
I get to the latter increaingly quickly these days.

What is f*cking reality enhancement (or whatever) anyway?

On 04/01/2016 16:31, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 14:56:18 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

On 04/01/2016 14:52, Martin wrote:

I suspect that Nemo bought a demo set without knowing.

Or simply the batteries were omitted in error ?

and the manuals?

IME with Sony stuff, the batteries are stuffed into the same bag that
contains the bag that contains the manual


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On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:23:03 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

I've just chopped up the box and plastic for recycling. No trace of
batteries.

How are you going to return it, when it dies in a few weeks time ?
(Which it will now thanks to Sod's Law, because you've broken up its box)

I had one die after 8 months with a strange tear/offset/weird colours at
the top inch or so of the screen.

JL's nominated repairers came and looked and 'took it away for repair'.
They were just going to wrap it in bubble wrap and chuck it in the back
of the van, but were persuaded to put it in the box which had been kept.

Of course, they didn't bother to take the stand off (2 screws and about
30 seconds work) so it obviously didn't fit properly.

News came a week or so later that it was 'unrepairable'.
The same (B) model was no longer available (quelle surprise) so I was
invited to pay another ú50 for the (brand new) C model. I refused on the
grounds that it was the same model number, just with a different version.
They refused to budge. I asked for my money back and got it... but in the
interim period, I had been into the local Waitrose where they were selling
off the B model at ú80 less than I'd originally paid.
So I then went and bought one and effectively had 8 months usage for -ú80.
Result!

A couple of weeks later I noticed the price of the C model had dropped by
ú50 to the same as what I originally paid for the B model.

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2016 12:35:01 +0000, lid wrote:

I've just bought a new Sony TV.

Unpacked it, looked for an instruction book like the comprehensive
one
that came with the old Sony.There's no book, just a single sheet of
paper covering several different TV models and 21 different
languages,
showing how to fit the table stand - nothing at all about wall
fixing,
nothing at all about connections and setting it up.

Sometimes there's a CD with a PDF manual, but sometimes nowadays not
even that, as the version on the website is likely to be newer.

In any case, most people probably did the same with the CD as they'd
formerly done with the printed manual, i.e. put it aside and lose
it.
At least if I've got something on the computer I know where it is.


Sony and Samsung have been putting the user manual on the set itself
for years. So long as the set works you never loose it.


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On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 12:59:27 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

On 04/01/2016 12:49, charles wrote:

But why such penny-pinching on a top brand TV? It just damages their
reputation.

Check through the packing again.

Yes, there should be a pair of AA or AAA batteries shrink wrapped.
Easy to miss with all the other floss that falls out.

When the parts for my new PC were delivered a couple of weeks ago the 2.5"
HDD was 'missing'. Got in touch - it should be there, took out the miles of
carefull packed bubbles and there it was! I'd looked in that bundle to get
the thermal paste and wondered why there was so much.
The HDD is so small and light, cf. a 3.5", that the bubble wrap was heavier.
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Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

En el artículo ,
lid escribió:

This is a "smart" TV,

That was your first mistake.

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On 04/01/2016 12:35, lid wrote:

But why such penny-pinching on a top brand TV? It just damages their
reputation.


Item returned by another customer and sold on to you?

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On 04/01/2016 12:41, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes I suspect they know nobody reads the damned thing anyway, but no
batteries? That is just stupid as even a cheapo clock normally comes
with batteries.



my sony tv that's about 4 years old has the manual built in - you can
bring it up onscreen.



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Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

Martin wrote:

You should have kept it in case you need to return it under guarantee.

We don't all live with vast storage. Any decent vendor won't expect
every buyer to keep the box. It's patently impracticable for people who
live in most flats in the UK; and even those of us who use our lofts
can't fit the box from a large TV. IME they'll either send someone to
collect as Paul Ratcliffe found or, for smaller items, send a box and
then a courier later.
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 17:53:55 -0000, "Robin" wrote:

Martin wrote:

You should have kept it in case you need to return it under guarantee.

We don't all live with vast storage. Any decent vendor won't expect
every buyer to keep the box. It's patently impracticable for people who
live in most flats in the UK; and even those of us who use our lofts
can't fit the box from a large TV. IME they'll either send someone to
collect as Paul Ratcliffe found or, for smaller items, send a box and
then a courier later.

Exactly so. I keep most boxes up in the loft for a goodly period, but
this box was too big to get through the hatch. I didn't want it
cluttering up the garage, and I wouldn't be permitted to store it in
the house.