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Old December 15th 15, 10:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_3_]
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Why not get rid of it before broadcast? Electronic flash is of very
short duration; much less than the maximum exposure time of one video
frame. So, they could insert a device/program that would look for a
frame with much more brightness than the previous one, and would replace
that frame with that previous one, or with the following one. This could
even be done on live broadcasts.

So, why isn't it done? It would be better for the epileptics, better for
the non-epileptics, and would get rid of these boring warnings.

Bill
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Old December 15th 15, 11:29 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Why not get rid of it before broadcast? Electronic flash is of very
short duration; much less than the maximum exposure time of one
video frame. So, they could insert a device/program that would look
for a frame with much more brightness than the previous one, and
would replace that frame with that previous one, or with the
following one. This could even be done on live broadcasts.

So, why isn't it done? It would be better for the epileptics, better
for the non-epileptics, and would get rid of these boring warnings.


Er, but to trigger fits doesn't it require a constant repeat rate of
7-12Hz - flash, no matter how much of it, could never achieve that?
How come they always warn of flash but they NEVER give any warning
about blue lights on emergency vehicles be it in news reports or drama
and which are much more constant and of longer duration?

We had to remove strobes from TV masts for (supposedly) the same
reason, but they didn't in Europe and I don't hear reports of
Eplilepsy issues. They only ever flashed at about 1 every 2-3 seconds
anyway.

Do-gooders who don't understand - again!


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Old December 16th 15, 09:39 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Why not get rid of it before broadcast? Electronic flash is of very short
duration; much less than the maximum exposure time of one video frame. So,
they could insert a device/program that would look for a frame with much
more brightness than the previous one, and would replace that frame with
that previous one, or with the following one. This could even be done on
live broadcasts.

So, why isn't it done? It would be better for the epileptics, better for
the non-epileptics, and would get rid of these boring warnings.

Bill



It's the same with lightning in storms, no warning in weather forecast.

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Old December 16th 15, 10:54 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 15/12/2015 22:29, Woody wrote:

Er, but to trigger fits doesn't it require a constant repeat rate of
7-12Hz - flash, no matter how much of it, could never achieve that?
How come they always warn of flash but they NEVER give any warning
about blue lights on emergency vehicles be it in news reports or drama
and which are much more constant and of longer duration?

We had to remove strobes from TV masts for (supposedly) the same
reason, but they didn't in Europe and I don't hear reports of
Eplilepsy issues. They only ever flashed at about 1 every 2-3 seconds
anyway.

Do-gooders who don't understand - again!


It's Ofcom, they don't set standards for anything useful, like minimum
bit rates, or ensuring uniform audio levels, but instead rather dogmatic
directives like this.

As you say out there in the real world are no end of epilepsy risks.
Dodgy lamp posts, sunshine through railings as you walk along etc etc.
TV has been a flickering box in the room for almost 80 years now, I'm
sure those at risk are well aware, and don't need warnings broadcast
before every possible instance ?


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Old December 16th 15, 11:37 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 16/12/2015 09:54, Mark Carver wrote:

As you say out there in the real world are no end of epilepsy risks.
Dodgy lamp posts, sunshine through railings as you walk along etc etc.
TV has been a flickering box in the room for almost 80 years now, I'm
sure those at risk are well aware, and don't need warnings broadcast
before every possible instance ?


Most cyclists who bother to use lights have the flashing LED type.

I don't recall any epileptics collapsing as a cyclist rides by.

Jim

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Old December 16th 15, 01:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_3_]
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On 16/12/2015 08:39, Kinnell wrote:

It's the same with lightning in storms, no warning in weather forecast.


How the lightning always comes a fraction of a second before I blink?

Bill
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Old December 16th 15, 02:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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Probably as is the case with most things, not enough people are affected so
they do not see a need.

Besides, when you get such a warning what are you supposed to do, just close
your eyes?
I'm sure there is a pun here about peanuts in bags saying may contain nuts
on them, but its eluding me at the moment.

The other night I was laughing at the announcer every ad break stating that
the following item contains very strong language from theoutset, and has
nudity and violence.
I thought to myself, like most stuff you get these days then.
I'm waiting for the one to say, the following program contains cultural
norms that are considered politically incorect today. If this might trouble
you then please turn off.

Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Why not get rid of it before broadcast? Electronic flash is of very short
duration; much less than the maximum exposure time of one video frame. So,
they could insert a device/program that would look for a frame with much
more brightness than the previous one, and would replace that frame with
that previous one, or with the following one. This could even be done on
live broadcasts.

So, why isn't it done? It would be better for the epileptics, better for
the non-epileptics, and would get rid of these boring warnings.

Bill



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Old December 16th 15, 02:59 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_3_]
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On 16/12/2015 13:44, Brian Gaff wrote:

I'm waiting for the one to say, the following program contains cultural
norms that are considered politically incorect today. If this might trouble
you then please turn off.

Very good!

Bill

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Old December 16th 15, 03:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_3_]
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:44:17 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

The other night I was laughing at the announcer every ad break stating that
the following item contains very strong language from theoutset, and has
nudity and violence.


Maybe we should just print a warning on every birth certificate and
have done with it. "Warning: the following years of your existence may
contain strong language, nudity, scenes of an explicit sexual nature,
and things you may find offensive or disturbing. Welcome to life".

Rod.
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Old December 16th 15, 06:21 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Indy Jess John" wrote in message
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On 16/12/2015 09:54, Mark Carver wrote:

As you say out there in the real world are no end of epilepsy
risks.
Dodgy lamp posts, sunshine through railings as you walk along etc
etc.
TV has been a flickering box in the room for almost 80 years now,
I'm
sure those at risk are well aware, and don't need warnings
broadcast
before every possible instance ?


Most cyclists who bother to use lights have the flashing LED type.

I don't recall any epileptics collapsing as a cyclist rides by.


I've often wondered if, under current legislation, these flashing
lights - plus those on a helmet or a back-pack of the rider - are
technically legal?


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