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Old October 27th 15, 08:16 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Tweed[_2_]
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When the 4G 800 MHz allocations were made a while back, there was much
prediction of doom for TV reception in certain areas. I recall there being
much debate about how inadequate the filters might be and how it would all
never work. Given the silence since, I presume the end of TV reception did
not come to pass?


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Old October 27th 15, 09:26 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 27/10/2015 19:16, Tweed wrote:

When the 4G 800 MHz allocations were made a while back, there was much
prediction of doom for TV reception in certain areas. I recall there being
much debate about how inadequate the filters might be and how it would all
never work. Given the silence since, I presume the end of TV reception did
not come to pass?


No, we are still running round fitting filters and taking other
measures. It doesn't make the headlines because each time it happens
it's just seen as a little regional problem. I would think the cost
borne to date by councils, housing associations, hospitals, etc, must be
in the millions.

Bill
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Old October 28th 15, 12:03 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Davey
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:26:45 +0000
Bill Wright wrote:

On 27/10/2015 19:16, Tweed wrote:

When the 4G 800 MHz allocations were made a while back, there was
much prediction of doom for TV reception in certain areas. I recall
there being much debate about how inadequate the filters might be
and how it would all never work. Given the silence since, I presume
the end of TV reception did not come to pass?


No, we are still running round fitting filters and taking other
measures. It doesn't make the headlines because each time it happens
it's just seen as a little regional problem. I would think the cost
borne to date by councils, housing associations, hospitals, etc, must
be in the millions.

Bill


So is it a real problem, or are you pre-empting problems that might not
really be there?

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Old October 28th 15, 01:43 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_3_]
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On 27/10/2015 23:03, Davey wrote:


No, we are still running round fitting filters and taking other
measures. It doesn't make the headlines because each time it happens
it's just seen as a little regional problem. I would think the cost
borne to date by councils, housing associations, hospitals, etc, must
be in the millions.

Bill


So is it a real problem, or are you pre-empting problems that might not
really be there?

We are responding to problems. Councils and landlords do not pre-empt
because that implies pre-spend. However when we are on site for other
reasons we will add the basic filters just in case a 4G mast is built
nearby.

Sometimes we have to switch a system from Belmont to an alternative
transmitter because reception of channel 60 is impossible near a 4G mast.

Sometimes we find that the 4G people have distributed leaflets, so any
reception problem of any kind whatsoever in the following months is
reported to us as 4G.

Bill


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Old October 28th 15, 09:33 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 28/10/2015 00:43, Bill Wright wrote:

Sometimes we have to switch a system from Belmont to an alternative
transmitter because reception of channel 60 is impossible near a 4G mast.


It's worth noting that Crystal Palace's highest allocated DTT Mux is Ch 35.

You know where I'm coming from here....... ;-)


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Old October 28th 15, 09:52 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Well, maybe everyone got a dish instead or is busy watching sstuff on the
internet.
I was just channel hoping last night, not much worth watching at all, or
lots of repeats.


Brian

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"Tweed" wrote in message
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When the 4G 800 MHz allocations were made a while back, there was much
prediction of doom for TV reception in certain areas. I recall there being
much debate about how inadequate the filters might be and how it would all
never work. Given the silence since, I presume the end of TV reception did
not come to pass?




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Old October 28th 15, 10:17 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Norman Wells[_7_]
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"Brian-Gaff" wrote in message
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Well, maybe everyone got a dish instead or is busy watching sstuff on the
internet. I was just channel hoping last night, not much worth watching at all,
or lots of repeats.


I like the idea of channel hoping. It sums the activity up pretty well.

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Old October 28th 15, 10:36 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , Tweed
wrote:

When the 4G 800 MHz allocations were made a while back, there was much
prediction of doom for TV reception in certain areas. I recall there
being much debate about how inadequate the filters might be and how it
would all never work. Given the silence since, I presume the end of TV
reception did not come to pass?


Afraid I can't recall anyone saying that it would be a blanket "end of TV
reception". However I certainly had to fit a very good filter to rid our
reception of problems when the local 4G base station started up. I doubt I
was the only person affected.

What the telco's have done efficiently is "news managed" any problems by
rolling out 4G gradually with minimal publicity telling people when their
area might be affected. Thus keeping lazy and ignorant journalists from
noticing.

Jim

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Old October 28th 15, 10:37 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Mark Carver
wrote:
On 28/10/2015 00:43, Bill Wright wrote:


Sometimes we have to switch a system from Belmont to an alternative
transmitter because reception of channel 60 is impossible near a 4G
mast.


It's worth noting that Crystal Palace's highest allocated DTT Mux is Ch
35.


You know where I'm coming from here....... ;-)


Whereas ours is 60- ...

Jim

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Old October 28th 15, 10:41 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:17:05 -0000
"Norman Wells" wrote:

"Brian-Gaff" wrote in message
...

Well, maybe everyone got a dish instead or is busy watching sstuff
on the internet. I was just channel hoping last night, not much
worth watching at all, or lots of repeats.


I like the idea of channel hoping. It sums the activity up pretty
well.


That is a good example of Serendipity. Well done Brian!
All that needs to happen now is that the phrase makes it into the OED.

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