How the disabled are ripped off

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:36:53 +0100, Johnny B Good wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:22:49 +0100, [email protected] wrote:

On 27/09/2015 23:08, Indy Jess John wrote:
On 27/09/2015 22:18, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:

It's speed limit +10mph.
Not everywhere. There are some speed cameras that register an offence
if you are doing 34mph or more in a 30mph limit. Some were in north
Wales.

Jim

They can do you for 31 in a 30 limit if they want to.
The evidence needs a bit more effort with calibration, etc.

The allowance is just to ease the job of the police.

As I've already explained, the +/-10% allowance isn't for the benefit of
the police, it's for the benefit of the equipment makers (and the hapless
motorist dependant upon an instrument he is forced to place his trust
in). It's the +/-2mph that's for the benefit of the police, provided they
can prove the calibration worthiness of their measuring devices along
with their correct usage.

That **** of a North Wales Chief Police Constable, determined to drive
the more wealthy tourist away by the stupidity of "A zero tolerance"
speeding ticket mentality" was not doing his fellow North Welsh citizens
any favours let alone the visiting tourists he felt obliged to attack
when they came up against a confusing plethora of seemingly random and
arbitrary speed limits along largely open country non-urban roads[1].

I'd be inclined to drive at half the speed limit through the whole place, to **** everyone off. It's not illegal to go 15 in a 30.

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On 29/09/2015 14:17, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:36:53 +0100, Johnny B wrote:


Since they'd only managed to clock me as doing 35mph (probably in the
first ten yard stretch after the 30mph limit sign by means of a a hidden
mobile speed camera), I was given the option of doing a speed awareness
course in lieu of a fine and 3 points. Just coincidentally, the cost of
the course happened to be the same as the fine (£60) but it was a no-
brainer to take this option since it saved me accumulating 3 points on my
licence.

But you got brainwashed. You only take those if you think you risk running low on points.

Not necessarily. If you have points on your licence you will find that
changing insurance companies is more difficult and the premiums higher
than if you shop around without points on your licence.

Jim

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:38:52 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:20:23 +0100, "Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote:
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I'd be inclined to drive at half the speed limit through the whole place, to **** everyone off. It's not illegal to go 15 in a 30.

That would make slowing to avoid pedestrians, stopping for traffic lights , and
cycling illegal

It's illegal to go under 30 on a motorway. But obviously there are exceptions like.... a traffic jam.

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:27:59 +0100, Indy Jess John wrote:

On 29/09/2015 14:17, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:36:53 +0100, Johnny B wrote:


Since they'd only managed to clock me as doing 35mph (probably in the
first ten yard stretch after the 30mph limit sign by means of a a hidden
mobile speed camera), I was given the option of doing a speed awareness
course in lieu of a fine and 3 points. Just coincidentally, the cost of
the course happened to be the same as the fine (£60) but it was a no-
brainer to take this option since it saved me accumulating 3 points on my
licence.

But you got brainwashed. You only take those if you think you risk running low on points.

Not necessarily. If you have points on your licence you will find that
changing insurance companies is more difficult and the premiums higher
than if you shop around without points on your licence.

Don't tell them about the points then.

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Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 10:47:46 +0100, NY wrote:

"Adrian" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:52:11 +0100, NY wrote:

So far no-one has managed to come up with a *physical* speed
restriction (as opposed to a speed camera) which has no effect if you
are well within the speed limit and only comes into effect if you
exceed it.

Yes, they have.

In Iberia, seemingly random traffic lights in the middle of straight
stretches of road are common. If you're exceeding the limit, they
change to red. The higher your speed, the longer they're red for.

Ah, like the infamous linked lights on the A4 in Slough that were set to
keep traffic moving at about 30 mph; if you drove at 20 or 40 you hit
every light at red, whereas if you drove at 30 then once you got through
the first light, all the rest would be at green for you. I heard that
someone worked out that if you drove at 80 you also hit green on every
light - and I bet the ton-up boys on their motorbikes took advantage of
that late at night :-)

Of course, nowdays the reverse is true. Long roads like the A4 (or A4123
in Brum) have the lights deliberately phased so that you have to stop at
every one, irrespective of speed.

Remember the mantra. Public transport:good. Private motoring:bad.

Actually, the DfT last year announced that your concept wasted fuel and,
although it increased tax revenue, it was now a bad thing and they'd
restore teh phasing at Slough.

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On 29/09/2015 15:30, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:27:59 +0100, Indy Jess wrote:

On 29/09/2015 14:17, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:36:53 +0100, Johnny B wrote:


Since they'd only managed to clock me as doing 35mph (probably in the
first ten yard stretch after the 30mph limit sign by means of a a hidden
mobile speed camera), I was given the option of doing a speed awareness
course in lieu of a fine and 3 points. Just coincidentally, the cost of
the course happened to be the same as the fine (£60) but it was a no-
brainer to take this option since it saved me accumulating 3 points on my
licence.

But you got brainwashed. You only take those if you think you risk running low on points.

Not necessarily. If you have points on your licence you will find that
changing insurance companies is more difficult and the premiums higher
than if you shop around without points on your licence.

Don't tell them about the points then.

Which is OK until you make a claim, and then they check everything, and
you will find that they don't pay your claim on the grounds that you
withheld a material fact. Then you personally will be pursued by any
other party wanting their losses reimbursed.

Jim

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:06:00 +0100, Indy Jess John wrote:

Not necessarily. If you have points on your licence you will find
that changing insurance companies is more difficult and the premiums
higher than if you shop around without points on your licence.

Don't tell them about the points then.

Which is OK until you make a claim, and then they check everything, and
you will find that they don't pay your claim on the grounds that you
withheld a material fact. Then you personally will be pursued by any
other party wanting their losses reimbursed.

Not quite. Your insurer are legally bound to pay third party claims - but
they can definitely come after you for them.

In practice, and unless the points are so egregious that they wouldn't
have covered you at all, they'll just take the extra premium from any
payout you'd have had.

'course, now insurers have direct access to DVLA to check your licence,
all they need is your licence number.

Don't want to give it...? Why not...? Thanks, but we won't quote.

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:06:00 +0100, Indy Jess John wrote:

On 29/09/2015 15:30, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:27:59 +0100, Indy Jess wrote:

On 29/09/2015 14:17, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:36:53 +0100, Johnny B wrote:


Since they'd only managed to clock me as doing 35mph (probably in the
first ten yard stretch after the 30mph limit sign by means of a a hidden
mobile speed camera), I was given the option of doing a speed awareness
course in lieu of a fine and 3 points. Just coincidentally, the cost of
the course happened to be the same as the fine (£60) but it was a no-
brainer to take this option since it saved me accumulating 3 points on my
licence.

But you got brainwashed. You only take those if you think you risk running low on points.

Not necessarily. If you have points on your licence you will find that
changing insurance companies is more difficult and the premiums higher
than if you shop around without points on your licence.

Don't tell them about the points then.

Which is OK until you make a claim, and then they check everything, and
you will find that they don't pay your claim on the grounds that you
withheld a material fact. Then you personally will be pursued by any
other party wanting their losses reimbursed.

Except that doesn't happen.

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:06:00 +0100, Indy Jess John wrote:

On 29/09/2015 15:30, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:27:59 +0100, Indy Jess wrote:

On 29/09/2015 14:17, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:36:53 +0100, Johnny B wrote:


Since they'd only managed to clock me as doing 35mph (probably in the
first ten yard stretch after the 30mph limit sign by means of a a hidden
mobile speed camera), I was given the option of doing a speed awareness
course in lieu of a fine and 3 points. Just coincidentally, the cost of
the course happened to be the same as the fine (£60) but it was a no-
brainer to take this option since it saved me accumulating 3 points on my
licence.

But you got brainwashed. You only take those if you think you risk running low on points.

Not necessarily. If you have points on your licence you will find that
changing insurance companies is more difficult and the premiums higher
than if you shop around without points on your licence.

Don't tell them about the points then.

Which is OK until you make a claim, and then they check everything, and
you will find that they don't pay your claim on the grounds that you
withheld a material fact. Then you personally will be pursued by any
other party wanting their losses reimbursed.

Except that doesn't happen.

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:06:00 +0100, Indy Jess John wrote:

On 29/09/2015 15:30, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:27:59 +0100, Indy Jess wrote:

On 29/09/2015 14:17, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:36:53 +0100, Johnny B wrote:


Since they'd only managed to clock me as doing 35mph (probably in the
first ten yard stretch after the 30mph limit sign by means of a a hidden
mobile speed camera), I was given the option of doing a speed awareness
course in lieu of a fine and 3 points. Just coincidentally, the cost of
the course happened to be the same as the fine (£60) but it was a no-
brainer to take this option since it saved me accumulating 3 points on my
licence.

But you got brainwashed. You only take those if you think you risk running low on points.

Not necessarily. If you have points on your licence you will find that
changing insurance companies is more difficult and the premiums higher
than if you shop around without points on your licence.

Don't tell them about the points then.

Which is OK until you make a claim, and then they check everything, and
you will find that they don't pay your claim on the grounds that you
withheld a material fact. Then you personally will be pursued by any
other party wanting their losses reimbursed.

Except that doesn't happen.

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