How the disabled are ripped off

On 26/09/2015 21:02, Bill Wright wrote:
Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:

A good service the disabled should be doing for the whole country is
getting rid of speedbumps. They're illegally discriminating against
the disabled. My Aunt has severe spine problems and can't go over
them at any speed.

Yes I know someone who has to take a long route to her mother's because
of that.

In Rotherham a common way to induce a birth is for the woman to stand up
in her boyfriend's van whilst he roars around the roadhump strewn
streets. This has been known to make the baby plop out.

(That was a joke by the way)

Bill

The pain caused by driving over speed bumps has been used to diagnose
appendicitis.

Obviously this is a technique for deciding whether to go to A&E or O&G.

--
Rod

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 18:41:34 +0100, [email protected] wrote:

On 26/09/2015 15:18, Fredxxx wrote:
On 26/09/2015 14:42, Bill Wright wrote:
Fredxxx wrote:

I would imagine that most people with mobility scooters would be
unable to fit batteries themselves, so perhaps not unreasonable to
specify they must be fitted by the same supplier?

Most people have sons-in-law.


Who are more likely to abuse the Zero VAT rate on batteries.

This is a case where it's difficult to draw the line for an item which
can be used for a range of applications.

Given that most mobility users get various disability benefits, one
starts the question why there needs to be a separate benefit in
supplying zero VAT to a disabled person, but hey!

You don't need to be disabled to get zero VAT you can get some things if
you have a chronic illness.

e.g. we have bought special 'cool pouches' for a diabetic.

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 20:15:16 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

tim..... wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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110Ah deep discharge battery sold through some disability industry
outlets: £149.95. Exact same battery sold for golf buggy: £60

Flightsafe device: £30. This is a three pin XLR plug with pins 1 and 2
shorted, in red plastic. This inhibits the scooter operation. Cost of
manufacture will be about £1.

cost of manufacture is not the only cost that they have to recover

If a product only sells in low numbers (and a "flight safe" device
aimed at a disability product sounds like a very low potential market)
the costs of development can be a significant part of the individual
sale price

Development? A 0.5" length of wire soldered to two pins?

And it would have to have been developed as part of the original scooter.
Presumably this is a replacement for a lost one.

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 19:52:41 +0100, tim..... wrote:

"Nightjar cpb.me.uk" "insert my surname here wrote in message
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On 26/09/2015 19:14, tim..... wrote:
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3 out of 4 of the items that I have purchased on Amazon type sites
have broken in less than the warranty period, but, of course, silly me
forgot to keep the seller's details - but the aggro of sending it back
by post probably means that I wouldn't bother anyway

Now reluctant to buy stuff this way in future, whatever the saving

I've not had any problems with things I've bought from Amazon.

but it's not "from" Amazon", is it

it's "Dispatched from and sold by XXX"

and presumably it is XXX with whom you have to assert your rights

In theory. In practice, Amazon have always sorted it out for me to
protect their 'branding'.

Not that I use them any more as they are generally more expensive than
many other suppliers.

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 21:14:47 +0100, polygonum wrote:

On 26/09/2015 21:02, Bill Wright wrote:
Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:

A good service the disabled should be doing for the whole country is
getting rid of speedbumps. They're illegally discriminating against
the disabled. My Aunt has severe spine problems and can't go over
them at any speed.

Yes I know someone who has to take a long route to her mother's because
of that.

In Rotherham a common way to induce a birth is for the woman to stand up
in her boyfriend's van whilst he roars around the roadhump strewn
streets. This has been known to make the baby plop out.

(That was a joke by the way)

Bill

The pain caused by driving over speed bumps has been used to diagnose
appendicitis.

What's more important is what it causes.

Obviously this is a technique for deciding whether to go to A&E or O&G.

Obstetrics and gynaecology?!

--
More than 10,000 people in England and Wales required professional treatment for injuries caused by home telephones in 2002.

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"Nightjar cpb.me.uk" "insert my surname here wrote in message
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On 24/09/2015 19:40, Bill Wright wrote:
110Ah deep discharge battery sold through some disability industry
outlets: £149.95. Exact same battery sold for golf buggy: £60

With or without VAT?

Flightsafe device: £30. This is a three pin XLR plug with pins 1 and 2
shorted, in red plastic. This inhibits the scooter operation. Cost of
manufacture will be about £1.

115mm rubber tyred jockey wheel, 20mm bo Disability shops: £18.
Various other places: about £10.

Various scooter keys:
Shoprider on/off switch £10. This is standard plastic body toggle
switch: £1 from CPC etc.
Some old types of scooter uses a standard 1/4" jack plug, shorted out
internally, as a key. These are sold for £5 to £12 in disability shops.
Some other keys are on standard blanks and my local cobbler with turn
them out at £5 each, but if you buy from a disability shop they are
likely to be £12 to £15.

It is simply a matter of shopping around. Last week I bought a three
wheel walker, with bag, basket and tray, for £29.99 from Amazon. Around
£90.00 from a disability shop. A few weeks earlier I bought a lightweight
transfer wheelchair for £50 from Amazon, as opposed to £12.50 a week to
hire locally; worthwhile as I knew it would take my partner more than
four weeks to fully recover from her TIA.

I suspect the difference is in the level of turnover and the overheads
involved in having a shop on the high street.

and having to deal with returns and warranties

3 out of 4 of the items that I have purchased on Amazon type sites have
broken in less than the warranty period,

None of mine have with that sort of item.

but, of course, silly me forgot to
keep the seller's details - but the aggro of sending it back by post
probably means that I wouldn't bother anyway

I have had the Culinare Automatic Jar Opener I got off ebay
fail twice now, both times outside the stated warranty. While
I do know who the seller was because I keep the emails, I didn’t
even bother to contact the seller, just emailed Culinare with a
photo of the first failure, had them send out a new one. They
didn’t want the old one back the photo was all they needed.

With the second failure, one of the long arms broke off completely
at the end inside the body. Just said that in the email and had them
send out the replacement. Again, they didn’t want the dead one.

I did at one time buy PC keyboards locally instead of using the net,
because they always did wear off the lettering well within the warranty
period with the very long Microsoft and Logitech warrantys. But when
I couldn’t get the latest mouse or keyboard locally, bought it
electronically
and when the mouse failed, all it took was a phone call to get the
replacement
shipped out and for the carrier to pick up the old one when he delivered
the replacement. With the keyboard, with a keytop that came off and
couldn’t be replaced, they didn’t want the old one back and all it took
was a phone call to get the replacement sent. With an earlier Logitech
mouse which also failed, they couldn’t supply a replacement for the
rather unusual mouse, so gave me a full refund so I had the use of
it for free for years.

Now reluctant to buy stuff this way in future, whatever the saving

More fool you.

On 26/09/2015 21:18, Bob Eager wrote:

e.g. we have bought special 'cool pouches' for a diabetic.


Why?
Insulin keeps for about 6 weeks once out of the fridge, depending on brand.

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 22:07:27 +0100, [email protected] wrote:

On 26/09/2015 21:18, Bob Eager wrote:

e.g. we have bought special 'cool pouches' for a diabetic.


Why?
Insulin keeps for about 6 weeks once out of the fridge, depending on
brand.

Under what stated temperature conditions? And with an opened vial? I
wonder if you would be so dismissive if you were the one using the
insulin.

On 26/09/2015 22:28, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 22:07:27 +0100, [email protected] wrote:

On 26/09/2015 21:18, Bob Eager wrote:

e.g. we have bought special 'cool pouches' for a diabetic.


Why?
Insulin keeps for about 6 weeks once out of the fridge, depending on
brand.

Under what stated temperature conditions? And with an opened vial? I
wonder if you would be so dismissive if you were the one using the
insulin.

One make says:

"The product may be stored for a maximum of 4 weeks not above 25°C and
away from direct heat or direct light."

It can be difficult keeping things below 25 in the summer when
travelling - unless you have something like a coolpack.

--
Rod

On 26/09/2015 22:44, polygonum wrote:
On 26/09/2015 22:28, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 22:07:27 +0100, [email protected] wrote:

On 26/09/2015 21:18, Bob Eager wrote:

e.g. we have bought special 'cool pouches' for a diabetic.


Why?
Insulin keeps for about 6 weeks once out of the fridge, depending on
brand.

Under what stated temperature conditions? And with an opened vial? I
wonder if you would be so dismissive if you were the one using the
insulin.

One make says:

"The product may be stored for a maximum of 4 weeks not above 25°C and
away from direct heat or direct light."

It can be difficult keeping things below 25 in the summer when
travelling - unless you have something like a coolpack.


The main thing is don't get the insulin too cold.
If you use an ice pack from a freezer you need to throw the insulin away
and get a new supply.
It crystallises out at low temps and then you don't know how much you
are getting.