Normal HD TV set or 3D or even 4K?

Kind of makes one wonder how much the cost price is on such items. I
understand that most Korean and Chinese makers use extensive automation
these days to put them together, which although bad for employment is
probably very cheap to do as long as everything works of course!

Brian

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"Woody" wrote in message
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"David" wrote in message
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When purchasing a new TV maybe today my questions to those of you that
have 3D and/or 4K sets are.
When watching normal HD and SD TV do either produce better picture
results?
When looking at Samsung which have satellite input which I must have I
see prices for 46 inch to 55 inch are in the area of £700 to £1100 which
to me is little more for 3D and/or 4K over a good brand TV set.
Samsung with Satellite HD are model numbers 6600 up.
Regards
David


If you have a full HD 1080p set then whatever you watch will look better
simply because it has more pixels. HD ready has 1Mp, full HD has 2Mp.

General opinion is that 3D TV is dying - in fact 3D is dying in general as
not enough people are prepared to pay the hiked prices. Go look how many
3D TV's are on sale in Expensive World compared with, say, 18 months ago.

Personally I would not buy a TV with built-in satellite as most such TV
AFAIK are not Sky compatible as such. They will get freesat OK but you
will probably still need a Sky box to watch anything else. Also if someone
makes the decision to either drop Freesat or change its format you will
have to scrap your TV, whereas if it has an external box then it is just a
new box.

Have a good look around at full HD TV's in the sales. My F-in-L bought a
Samsung UE32H5000 last year for £279 at JLP (they were £269 at Richers at
the time) with a five year guarantee: EW are now retailing them at £239,
down to £199 in the current sale, with the 5500 smart version at £249 (was
£329.) JLP are doing them at the same price still with 5 yr guar.




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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Woody wrote:

Wiliam, are you having a bad hair day? This box is
Freeview - we were talking Freesat!



No I was ****ed up. And don't call me William, especially
with one L!



Well, that got the result I expected, and the missing L was
a typo caused by RFI between my wireless keyboard and a Dell
laptop charger.


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harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

Woody wrote:

No I was ****ed up. And don't call me William, especially
with one L!



Well, that got the result I expected, and the missing L was
a typo caused by RFI between my wireless keyboard and a Dell
laptop charger.

Noel, noel, no-o-el, noel

Bill

Well decided to get Samsung UE48HU7500 at Richer Sounds.
So went out yesterday and bought the UE55HU7500 mistake was taking my
lovely lady wife who thought we should keep up with the so called Jones.

It has both the 3D and 4K.

Poor picture when we turned it on and shocked as nothing like we had
seen in showrooms, then we heard of the EU and compulsory ECO mode,
dived into Menus and turned it off. Now got fantastic pictures on the
HD stations.
Continuing to tweak thinks as the days go by.

Got a free 5 year warranty and 3 months free of movie channels and if I
go onto the Samsung site was told I can claim a free Hub, what that does
I not know if you do is it worth claiming?

Thanks for your help
David

"David" wrote in message
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Well decided to get Samsung UE48HU7500 at Richer Sounds.
So went out yesterday and bought the UE55HU7500 mistake
was taking my lovely lady wife who thought we should keep
up with the so called Jones.

It has both the 3D and 4K.

Poor picture when we turned it on and shocked as nothing
like we had seen in showrooms, then we heard of the EU and
compulsory ECO mode, dived into Menus and turned it off.
Now got fantastic pictures on the HD stations.
Continuing to tweak thinks as the days go by.

Got a free 5 year warranty and 3 months free of movie
channels and if I go onto the Samsung site was told I can
claim a free Hub, what that does I not know if you do is
it worth claiming?

Thanks for your help


On principle, if its free, claim it!

There are three common networking devices:
A hub - usually four ethernet ports - just broadcasts on the
remaining ports anything that it gets in from any one port.
It means that everthing connected to it sees all traffic so
it can slow things down on a busy system. Each device
connected must have its own unique network address;
A switch - which is what the ethernet ports on a router in
effect are - is the same as a hub but it learns who is
connected to each port and steers the data accordingly, i.e.
from any one input only one item connected to one other port
should receive the data. As with a hub each device must have
its own unique network address;
A router - which is an interconnecting device between a
network (usually external such as the Internet) and a number
of users or equipments. Its outputs to its own network act
like a switch (as above) and steer the data. However it
usually also does one other thing and that is issue (via
DHCP) a unique address to each device connected to each port
in an address range totally unrelated to the outside world
address. This means that 4/8/16/32 devices on the equipment
side can access the external network through one single port
and one IP address. As this address change - or NAT, Network
Address Translation - means that the outside world is unable
to directly access something on the local side of the
router, said router is acting as a hardware firewall so
there is (really) no need for your IS software to do the
same thing.

They will supply you a hub so that if you only have one
network connection adjacent to the TV connected to, say, an
audio (hi-fi) streaming unit, you can get a second (and
third and fourth) port available through which to connect
your smart TV etc from the one cable.

HTH.


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On 28/12/2014 20:11, Woody wrote:
A switch - which is what the ethernet ports on a router in
effect are

Not necessarily. AIUI some are a router connected to a hub. This tends
not to matter much, as the real bottleneck is the wire on the outside,
which it switches properly. Only when you have two (or more) pairs of
machines running simultaneously does a hub give better performance.

I haven't tried with wires, but I suspect mine runs out of CPU before
net bandwidth.

Andy

Woody wrote:

David wrote:

if I go onto the Samsung site was told I can claim a free Hub, what
that does I not know if you do is it worth claiming?

There are three common networking devices:
A hub - usually four ethernet ports - just broadcasts on the
remaining ports anything that it gets in from any one port.

True, but practically non-existent for donkeys years.

I suspect what they're dishing out is this

http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/wireless-audio-multiroom/wireless-audio-multiroom/WAM250/XU

On 29/12/2014 09:40, brightside S9 wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 20:32:09 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Woody wrote:

David wrote:

if I go onto the Samsung site was told I can claim a free Hub, what
that does I not know if you do is it worth claiming?

There are three common networking devices:
A hub - usually four ethernet ports - just broadcasts on the
remaining ports anything that it gets in from any one port.

True, but practically non-existent for donkeys years.

I suspect what they're dishing out is this

http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/wireless-audio-multiroom/wireless-audio-multiroom/WAM250/XU


Your suspicions are correct. There are dozens on Ebay. More money
needs to be spent to make use of it.


Nothing for me to get excited about then.
Have applied for it might become of use later or for a family member.
Regards
David

On Sunday, 28 December 2014 19:34:00 UTC, David wrote:
Well decided to get Samsung UE48HU7500 at Richer Sounds.
So went out yesterday and bought the UE55HU7500 mistake was taking my
lovely lady wife who thought we should keep up with the so called Jones.

It has both the 3D and 4K.

Poor picture when we turned it on and shocked as nothing like we had
seen in showrooms, then we heard of the EU and compulsory ECO mode,
dived into Menus and turned it off. Now got fantastic pictures on the
HD stations.
Continuing to tweak thinks as the days go by.

Got a free 5 year warranty and 3 months free of movie channels and if I
go onto the Samsung site was told I can claim a free Hub, what that does
I not know if you do is it worth claiming?

Thanks for your help
David

you will probably find that it has an undocumented FTA satellite receiver. Not Freesat, but it gets all the same channels, but no EPG.

On 29/12/2014 18:05, wrote:
On Sunday, 28 December 2014 19:34:00 UTC, David wrote:
Well decided to get Samsung UE48HU7500 at Richer Sounds.
So went out yesterday and bought the UE55HU7500 mistake was taking my
lovely lady wife who thought we should keep up with the so called Jones.

It has both the 3D and 4K.

Poor picture when we turned it on and shocked as nothing like we had
seen in showrooms, then we heard of the EU and compulsory ECO mode,
dived into Menus and turned it off. Now got fantastic pictures on the
HD stations.
Continuing to tweak thinks as the days go by.

Got a free 5 year warranty and 3 months free of movie channels and if I
go onto the Samsung site was told I can claim a free Hub, what that does
I not know if you do is it worth claiming?

Thanks for your help
David

you will probably find that it has an undocumented FTA satellite receiver. Not Freesat, but it gets all the same channels, but no EPG.


It has the terrestrial Freeview List and the Satellite Freesat, also a
second satellite List for which I have downloaded all the stations in
the clear from the 28.6 deg. East satellites so duplicates those on
Freesat and in addition those not on Freesat. I will probably amend
that to have the non Freesat ones only.


Regards
David