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Old December 26th 14, 10:05 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff[_2_]
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I listened to a station on short wave the other day. Cannot remember where
from, but the gist of it was that computing power is now enough to create
avatars of dead people where film or tapes exist of their visual and audio
selves, in such a way that they can be made to do things and say things
they never said when they were alive. Of course I don't know how good this ,
and presumably its not in real time, but the thought of bringing back dead
stars is rather worrying, who gets the royalties etc?
Besides, I bet they would not bring back anyone who is interesting, and
even if they did, they might get sued by the dead persons estate if it was
out of character.

Food for thought though.
It was only last year when a UK company demonstrated some artificial
voices that sounded like the current and last US presidents. You could make
the say anything.
They do not intend to actually sell them, they were just using it as a
demonstration of the principals.
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Old December 26th 14, 02:43 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 26/12/2014 09:05, Brian Gaff wrote:
I listened to a station on short wave the other day. Cannot remember where
from, but the gist of it was that computing power is now enough to create
avatars of dead people where film or tapes exist of their visual and audio
selves, in such a way that they can be made to do things and say things
they never said when they were alive.


It was done with Bob Monkhouse, a TV ad promoting awareness of Prostrate
Cancer, using images of him, blended by CGI to make it appear as if it
was a real performance. (I think he died of the disease ?)


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Old December 26th 14, 04:51 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Brian Gaff wrote:

I listened to a station on short wave the other day. Cannot remember where
from, but the gist of it was that computing power is now enough to create
avatars of dead people


I thought this was going to be about the American hospital that seems*
to be draining the blood and replacing with cold saline to extend the
time available to work on victims brought in, to the extent they would
be declared dead if the suspended animation hadn't been done deliberately.
[*] previously they said they were wanting to start trials of this, but
now they are in a phase where they can't comment, which seems to suggest
they have started using the technique.

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Old December 26th 14, 07:37 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Friday, 26 December 2014 09:05:36 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
I listened to a station on short wave the other day. Cannot remember where
from, but the gist of it was that computing power is now enough to create
avatars of dead people where film or tapes exist of their visual and audio
selves, in such a way that they can be made to do things and say things
they never said when they were alive. Of course I don't know how good this ,
and presumably its not in real time, but the thought of bringing back dead
stars is rather worrying, who gets the royalties etc?
Besides, I bet they would not bring back anyone who is interesting, and
even if they did, they might get sued by the dead persons estate if it was
out of character.

Food for thought though.
It was only last year when a UK company demonstrated some artificial
voices that sounded like the current and last US presidents. You could make
the say anything.


Is this the explanation for Milliband then?

They do not intend to actually sell them, they were just using it as a
demonstration of the principals.
Brian

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Old December 26th 14, 10:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff[_2_]
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Yes, but I think it is a bit more sophisticated than that now.
Its all very worrying. Can you imagine the Two Ronnies reincarnated, or
maybe Benny Hill?
Hmm.
Brian

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On 26/12/2014 09:05, Brian Gaff wrote:
I listened to a station on short wave the other day. Cannot remember
where
from, but the gist of it was that computing power is now enough to
create
avatars of dead people where film or tapes exist of their visual and
audio
selves, in such a way that they can be made to do things and say things
they never said when they were alive.


It was done with Bob Monkhouse, a TV ad promoting awareness of Prostrate
Cancer, using images of him, blended by CGI to make it appear as if it was
a real performance. (I think he died of the disease ?)


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Old December 26th 14, 10:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff[_2_]
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Its already being done, even over here I understand.
There was an organ transplant quite recently. Nobleeding as there was no
blood for nearly haldf an hour.
Its also slightly done after serious accidents in special ambulances
apparently, but that is not what I'm refering to.
Last series of CSI the plot was that somone had ripped a normal member of
the pulics videos and pitures from Facebook and remoddeled her as a sex site
host for rather less than legal uses, and all hell broke out when the real
person found out she was this person leading men astray and into blackmail
territory etc.


Good yarn of course.
Brian

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o.uk...
Brian Gaff wrote:

I listened to a station on short wave the other day. Cannot remember
where
from, but the gist of it was that computing power is now enough to
create
avatars of dead people


I thought this was going to be about the American hospital that seems* to
be draining the blood and replacing with cold saline to extend the time
available to work on victims brought in, to the extent they would be
declared dead if the suspended animation hadn't been done deliberately.

[*] previously they said they were wanting to start trials of this, but
now they are in a phase where they can't comment, which seems to suggest
they have started using the technique.



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Old December 26th 14, 10:40 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff[_2_]
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I find him no less or more irritating than most self delusional
politicians.
Brian

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On Friday, 26 December 2014 09:05:36 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
I listened to a station on short wave the other day. Cannot remember
where
from, but the gist of it was that computing power is now enough to
create
avatars of dead people where film or tapes exist of their visual and
audio
selves, in such a way that they can be made to do things and say things
they never said when they were alive. Of course I don't know how good
this ,
and presumably its not in real time, but the thought of bringing back
dead
stars is rather worrying, who gets the royalties etc?
Besides, I bet they would not bring back anyone who is interesting, and
even if they did, they might get sued by the dead persons estate if it
was
out of character.

Food for thought though.
It was only last year when a UK company demonstrated some artificial
voices that sounded like the current and last US presidents. You could
make
the say anything.


Is this the explanation for Milliband then?

They do not intend to actually sell them, they were just using it as a
demonstration of the principals.
Brian

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From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active




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Old December 26th 14, 11:29 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Is this the explanation for Milliband then?



Who?


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Old December 27th 14, 02:02 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 22:29:36 +0000, alan_m
wrote:


Is this the explanation for Milliband then?



Who?


Exactly. "Milliband" is an inaccurate artificial representation of the
man. The real, living, one has only one "l" in his name. :-)


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Old December 28th 14, 11:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Friday, December 26, 2014 9:34:35 PM UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
Can you imagine the Two Ronnies reincarnated


Only one of them's actually dead.

Anyway, their humour is timeless, even if the suits aren't.

Owain


 




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