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Old August 16th 14, 10:57 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Some of you may recall that my Hummy remote is playing up

Well I've lost some more keys now so I investigated whether it was possible
to drive the machine if it packs up completely [1].

And yes, you can do the basic functions of setting up recordings via the EPG
(or the menu). And you can replay those recordings. But what you can't do
is delete them (except via a complete reformat)

WTF was the guy smoking when they thought that useful?!

tim


[1] I'm loath to spend 30 quid (plus P&P) on a replacement remote when, when
last available, a complete SD recorder including 500 gig hard disk could be
had for under 90. And I can't find a programmable one where the retailer
will "guarantee" that it can be programmed for the Hummy - the one that I
bought in the pound shop couldn't (Yes I know!) - and they are all sold in
blister packs that take a chain saw to open :-(, so they won't take them
back for this reason.

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Old August 16th 14, 12:38 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Have you had a look inside the remote. I believe some can be repaired either
by that conductive paint or just a clean up depending on the method of
connections used under the buttons.
The ones that use the weird conductive foam are not really repairable
though, as far as I'm aware.
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"tim....." wrote in message
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Some of you may recall that my Hummy remote is playing up

Well I've lost some more keys now so I investigated whether it was
possible to drive the machine if it packs up completely [1].

And yes, you can do the basic functions of setting up recordings via the
EPG (or the menu). And you can replay those recordings. But what you
can't do is delete them (except via a complete reformat)

WTF was the guy smoking when they thought that useful?!

tim


[1] I'm loath to spend 30 quid (plus P&P) on a replacement remote when,
when last available, a complete SD recorder including 500 gig hard disk
could be had for under 90. And I can't find a programmable one where the
retailer will "guarantee" that it can be programmed for the Hummy - the
one that I bought in the pound shop couldn't (Yes I know!) - and they are
all sold in blister packs that take a chain saw to open :-(, so they won't
take them back for this reason.



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Old August 16th 14, 12:41 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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tim..... wrote:

[1] I'm loath to spend 30 quid (plus P&P) on a replacement remote when, when
last available, a complete SD recorder including 500 gig hard disk could be
had for under 90. And I can't find a programmable one where the retailer
will "guarantee" that it can be programmed for the Hummy - the one that I
bought in the pound shop couldn't (Yes I know!) - and they are all sold in
blister packs that take a chain saw to open :-(, so they won't take them
back for this reason.

You can surely get a replacement remote for less than that, two ways :-

Look for a 'Humax Remote' on eBay, less than a tenner some of them.

Go for a 'universal' remote, I've got one that drives our TV, the
Humax and a dvd player satisfactorily (not 'perfectly' but still)
and cost less than ten pounds if I remember right. CPC, among
others, have quite a selection.

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Old August 16th 14, 03:27 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"tim....." wrote in message
...
Some of you may recall that my Hummy remote is playing up

Well I've lost some more keys now so I investigated whether it was
possible to drive the machine if it packs up completely [1].

And yes, you can do the basic functions of setting up recordings via the
EPG (or the menu). And you can replay those recordings. But what you
can't do is delete them (except via a complete reformat)

WTF was the guy smoking when they thought that useful?!

tim


[1] I'm loath to spend 30 quid (plus P&P) on a replacement remote when,
when last available, a complete SD recorder including 500 gig hard disk
could be had for under 90. And I can't find a programmable one where the
retailer will "guarantee" that it can be programmed for the Hummy - the
one that I bought in the pound shop couldn't (Yes I know!) - and they are
all sold in blister packs that take a chain saw to open :-(, so they won't
take them back for this reason.


If you can ever pick up a (circa £5.00) Silvercrest universal remote from
Lidl, do so, as they have a very comprehensive set of codes, LCD display,
plus the added bonus of an excellent learning feature for those more obscure
devices, it even comes with a 3 year warrantee.


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Old August 16th 14, 03:43 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Have you had a look inside the remote.


I haven't managed to work out how to open it - without completely destroying
the case

tim



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Old August 16th 14, 03:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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wrote in message ...
tim..... wrote:

[1] I'm loath to spend 30 quid (plus P&P) on a replacement remote when,
when
last available, a complete SD recorder including 500 gig hard disk could
be
had for under 90. And I can't find a programmable one where the retailer
will "guarantee" that it can be programmed for the Hummy - the one that I
bought in the pound shop couldn't (Yes I know!) - and they are all sold
in
blister packs that take a chain saw to open :-(, so they won't take them
back for this reason.

You can surely get a replacement remote for less than that, two ways :-

Look for a 'Humax Remote' on eBay, less than a tenner some of them.


used perhaps. (I have one of those - it doesn't work) I couldn't see
anything close to that price for "new"


Go for a 'universal' remote, I've got one that drives our TV, the
Humax and a dvd player satisfactorily (not 'perfectly' but still)
and cost less than ten pounds if I remember right. CPC, among
others, have quite a selection.


I take it you didn't read my post in full - I have already considered this,
in fact already bought one only to find that it didn't have the hummy on its
list

I have no intention of repeating that attempt unless the shop will open that
packaging and show me that the one they sell will work with the hummy -
something that they won't do

tim


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Old August 16th 14, 03:47 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Anth" wrote in message
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"tim....." wrote in message
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Some of you may recall that my Hummy remote is playing up

Well I've lost some more keys now so I investigated whether it was
possible to drive the machine if it packs up completely [1].

And yes, you can do the basic functions of setting up recordings via the
EPG (or the menu). And you can replay those recordings. But what you
can't do is delete them (except via a complete reformat)

WTF was the guy smoking when they thought that useful?!

tim


[1] I'm loath to spend 30 quid (plus P&P) on a replacement remote when,
when last available, a complete SD recorder including 500 gig hard disk
could be had for under 90. And I can't find a programmable one where the
retailer will "guarantee" that it can be programmed for the Hummy - the
one that I bought in the pound shop couldn't (Yes I know!) - and they are
all sold in blister packs that take a chain saw to open :-(, so they
won't take them back for this reason.


If you can ever pick up a (circa £5.00) Silvercrest universal remote from
Lidl, do so, as they have a very comprehensive set of codes, LCD display,
plus the added bonus of an excellent learning feature for those more
obscure devices, it even comes with a 3 year warrantee.


If I had a working device for it to "learn" from, I wouldn't be needing one,
would I?

tim







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Old August 16th 14, 06:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:43:08 +0100, "tim....."
wrote:


"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Have you had a look inside the remote.


I haven't managed to work out how to open it - without completely destroying
the case

tim


I recently acquired a secondhand Humax, and your uncertainty of how to
open the handset got me to investigate mine, to see what state its
innards were in and clean out all remains of the previous owner.

I found I was able to run a thin spatula in the crack between the
front and rear, and at certain points it would go in further where the
latches are, so I marked their position. There are 14 of them, all
about 5mm wide, located as follows.

Two either side of the IR window at the front edge, two in similar
positions at the bottom edge, two on the sides half way between the
mute/power and white button rows, two between the 7/8/9 and
list/0/menu rows, two just below the media/guide row level with the up
arrow, two level with the opt+ button, and two just above "HUMAX".

I pushed a thin watchmakers screwdriver blade into one of the side
latch positions, and levered it to bend the back moulding sideways to
release the latch. Then wedging something into the gap created, to
stop it snapping back, worked my way round the other latches in
similar fashion.

Luckily the innards were in not bad state, but I wiped the contacts
over with a trace of white spirit to get rid of some gooey stuff which
I think was polish not some vital conductive fluid. Also it was very
easy to clean the mouldings and membrane of crumbs etc. It all snapped
back together with only very slight damage at my first incursion.

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Old August 16th 14, 07:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Take the model number and search for the instructions/specifications
on the web first.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:46:17 +0100, "tim....."
wrote:

I have no intention of repeating that attempt unless the shop will open that
packaging and show me that the one they sell will work with the hummy -
something that they won't do

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Old August 17th 14, 12:33 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"tim....." wrote in message
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wrote in message ...


Go for a 'universal' remote, I've got one that drives our TV, the
Humax and a dvd player satisfactorily (not 'perfectly' but still)
and cost less than ten pounds if I remember right. CPC, among
others, have quite a selection.


I take it you didn't read my post in full - I have already considered
this, in fact already bought one only to find that it didn't have the
hummy on its list

I have no intention of repeating that attempt unless the shop will open
that packaging and show me that the one they sell will work with the
hummy - something that they won't do


I can confirm that the One For All URC-7960 has a pre-defined code for the
Humax 9xxxT PVRs.

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