Two Topfields in the same room (remotes).

Hi All,

She's finally got fedup with her (replacement) Humax PVR-9150T [1] and
replaced it with a s/h Topfield TF5800 like mine. ;-)

Except (of course), both the remote operate both the Toppys. ;-(

So, a quick Google has thrown up talk of different remote 'modes',
taps and all sorts of other extenders and hardware but before I do
anything I thought I'd ask here in case there is a 'simple' solution?

Failing such, and as she sits very near her STB, I could effectively
make her remote 'wired' by extending the TX LED into the case of her
Toppy and masking off the IR window. However, before I do that I was
wondering if you could replace the IR LED with a visible red one and
cover her IR window with some suitable red filter material? Would that
be enough to isolate the two systems?

Open to any other workable ideas of course. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[1] Irregular rebooting.

T i m wrote:
Hi All,

She's finally got fedup with her (replacement) Humax PVR-9150T [1] and
replaced it with a s/h Topfield TF5800 like mine. ;-)

Except (of course), both the remote operate both the Toppys. ;-(

So, a quick Google has thrown up talk of different remote 'modes',
taps and all sorts of other extenders and hardware but before I do
anything I thought I'd ask here in case there is a 'simple' solution?

Failing such, and as she sits very near her STB, I could effectively
make her remote 'wired' by extending the TX LED into the case of her
Toppy and masking off the IR window. However, before I do that I was
wondering if you could replace the IR LED with a visible red one and
cover her IR window with some suitable red filter material? Would that
be enough to isolate the two systems?

Open to any other workable ideas of course. ;-)

Polarising filters? No idea if this would work though...

Tim

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:06:29 -0000, "Tim+"
wrote:

T i m wrote:
Hi All,

She's finally got fedup with her (replacement) Humax PVR-9150T [1] and
replaced it with a s/h Topfield TF5800 like mine. ;-)

Except (of course), both the remote operate both the Toppys. ;-(

So, a quick Google has thrown up talk of different remote 'modes',
taps and all sorts of other extenders and hardware but before I do
anything I thought I'd ask here in case there is a 'simple' solution?

Failing such, and as she sits very near her STB, I could effectively
make her remote 'wired' by extending the TX LED into the case of her
Toppy and masking off the IR window. However, before I do that I was
wondering if you could replace the IR LED with a visible red one and
cover her IR window with some suitable red filter material? Would that
be enough to isolate the two systems?

Open to any other workable ideas of course. ;-)

Polarising filters? No idea if this would work though...

I don't think it would hurt and easy to try (externally at least)
first.

Cheers, T i m

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:06:29 -0000, "Tim+"
wrote:

T i m wrote:
Hi All,

She's finally got fedup with her (replacement) Humax PVR-9150T [1] and
replaced it with a s/h Topfield TF5800 like mine. ;-)

Except (of course), both the remote operate both the Toppys. ;-(

So, a quick Google has thrown up talk of different remote 'modes',
taps and all sorts of other extenders and hardware but before I do
anything I thought I'd ask here in case there is a 'simple' solution?

Failing such, and as she sits very near her STB, I could effectively
make her remote 'wired' by extending the TX LED into the case of her
Toppy and masking off the IR window. However, before I do that I was
wondering if you could replace the IR LED with a visible red one and
cover her IR window with some suitable red filter material? Would that
be enough to isolate the two systems?

Open to any other workable ideas of course. ;-)

Polarising filters? No idea if this would work though...

Tim

If the two boxes are in different parts of the room, try a combination
of partially blinding the sensors with tape and pin-holes, and
shielding the sensors with card so each will only respond when aiming
directly at it.



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Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:16:23 +0000, Graham. wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:06:29 -0000, "Tim+"
wrote:

T i m wrote:
Hi All,

She's finally got fedup with her (replacement) Humax PVR-9150T [1] and
replaced it with a s/h Topfield TF5800 like mine. ;-)

Except (of course), both the remote operate both the Toppys. ;-(

So, a quick Google has thrown up talk of different remote 'modes',
taps and all sorts of other extenders and hardware but before I do
anything I thought I'd ask here in case there is a 'simple' solution?

Failing such, and as she sits very near her STB, I could effectively
make her remote 'wired' by extending the TX LED into the case of her
Toppy and masking off the IR window. However, before I do that I was
wondering if you could replace the IR LED with a visible red one and
cover her IR window with some suitable red filter material? Would that
be enough to isolate the two systems?

Open to any other workable ideas of course. ;-)

Polarising filters? No idea if this would work though...



If the two boxes are in different parts of the room,

They are ...

try a combination
of partially blinding the sensors with tape and pin-holes, and
shielding the sensors with card so each will only respond when aiming
directly at it.

I had thought of trying that but they could both be used (accessed)
from similar locations so I was just checking to see if there was
something more definitive first.

It could end up being what I do though and as long as it prevents even
'most' of the issues it might be sufficient (I'll try the polarising
filters first and then add the masking after that).

Cheers, T i m

Graham. wrote:

If the two boxes are in different parts of the room, try a combination
of partially blinding the sensors with tape and pin-holes, and
shielding the sensors with card so each will only respond when aiming
directly at it.

Solved this a while back, once, as follows:
It was for a bloke who had two identical Humax sat boxes, one on top of
the other. He was a bit of a nutter who wanted to be able to record
three or four things at once and also watch live TV, and feed HDMI out
to the bedrooms. He had no watchable terrestrial reception. It was a
static caravan behind a load of trees. I put a 4" x 4" mirror in front
of the top box, which was set back a bit from the other one, which was
immediately below it. I put a piece of card just to the right of the IR
sensor on the bottom box, sticking out at a right angle. I messed around
with the position of the mirror (bluetack)'til it worked as I wanted.
The idea was he had one remote with a piece of black tape over the IR,
with an experimentally determined number of pinholes in it. That remote
was pointed directly at the two receivers and the mirror screened the
top one from it. The other remote had a bit of card taped to the left
side of it at the front as a screen. It was used by pointing it at the
wall (I think it was cream wallpaper) off to the right, which reflected
enough IR to go to the top receiver via the mirror.This idea did work OK
but he had to be careful how he pointed the remotes.

I haven't heard from the bloke since so either it all works fine or he
thought I was a total nutter, not safe to be let loose on the public.


Bill

"T i m" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

She's finally got fedup with her (replacement) Humax PVR-9150T [1] and
replaced it with a s/h Topfield TF5800 like mine. ;-)

Except (of course), both the remote operate both the Toppys. ;-(

So, a quick Google has thrown up talk of different remote 'modes',
taps and all sorts of other extenders and hardware but before I do
anything I thought I'd ask here in case there is a 'simple' solution?

Failing such, and as she sits very near her STB, I could effectively
make her remote 'wired' by extending the TX LED into the case of her
Toppy and masking off the IR window. However, before I do that I was
wondering if you could replace the IR LED with a visible red one and
cover her IR window with some suitable red filter material? Would that
be enough to isolate the two systems?

Open to any other workable ideas of course. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[1] Irregular rebooting.

My JVC VCR's had an A-B switch on one remote to resolve this sort of
problem...

"Tim+" wrote in message
...
T i m wrote:
Hi All,

She's finally got fedup with her (replacement) Humax PVR-9150T [1] and
replaced it with a s/h Topfield TF5800 like mine. ;-)

Except (of course), both the remote operate both the Toppys. ;-(

So, a quick Google has thrown up talk of different remote 'modes',
taps and all sorts of other extenders and hardware but before I do
anything I thought I'd ask here in case there is a 'simple' solution?

Failing such, and as she sits very near her STB, I could effectively
make her remote 'wired' by extending the TX LED into the case of her
Toppy and masking off the IR window. However, before I do that I was
wondering if you could replace the IR LED with a visible red one and
cover her IR window with some suitable red filter material? Would that
be enough to isolate the two systems?

Open to any other workable ideas of course. ;-)

Polarising filters? No idea if this would work though...

Tim


Should do.

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:35:11 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Graham. wrote:

If the two boxes are in different parts of the room, try a combination
of partially blinding the sensors with tape and pin-holes, and
shielding the sensors with card so each will only respond when aiming
directly at it.

Solved this a while back, once, as follows:
It was for a bloke who had two identical Humax sat boxes, one on top of
the other. He was a bit of a nutter who wanted to be able to record
three or four things at once and also watch live TV, and feed HDMI out
to the bedrooms. He had no watchable terrestrial reception. It was a
static caravan behind a load of trees. I put a 4" x 4" mirror in front
of the top box, which was set back a bit from the other one, which was
immediately below it. I put a piece of card just to the right of the IR
sensor on the bottom box, sticking out at a right angle. I messed around
with the position of the mirror (bluetack)'til it worked as I wanted.
The idea was he had one remote with a piece of black tape over the IR,
with an experimentally determined number of pinholes in it. That remote
was pointed directly at the two receivers and the mirror screened the
top one from it. The other remote had a bit of card taped to the left
side of it at the front as a screen. It was used by pointing it at the
wall (I think it was cream wallpaper) off to the right, which reflected
enough IR to go to the top receiver via the mirror.This idea did work OK
but he had to be careful how he pointed the remotes.

Pretty 'creative'. ;-)

I haven't heard from the bloke since so either it all works fine or he
thought I was a total nutter, not safe to be let loose on the public.

Hehe ... best not phone him to ask, just in case. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:39:45 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:


"Tim+" wrote in message
...
T i m wrote:
Hi All,

She's finally got fedup with her (replacement) Humax PVR-9150T [1] and
replaced it with a s/h Topfield TF5800 like mine. ;-)

Except (of course), both the remote operate both the Toppys. ;-(

So, a quick Google has thrown up talk of different remote 'modes',
taps and all sorts of other extenders and hardware but before I do
anything I thought I'd ask here in case there is a 'simple' solution?

Failing such, and as she sits very near her STB, I could effectively
make her remote 'wired' by extending the TX LED into the case of her
Toppy and masking off the IR window. However, before I do that I was
wondering if you could replace the IR LED with a visible red one and
cover her IR window with some suitable red filter material? Would that
be enough to isolate the two systems?

Open to any other workable ideas of course. ;-)

Polarising filters? No idea if this would work though...


Should do.

Cool, I've ordered a bit and will let you know how it works out.

I'll (after checking the final required sizes first) cut it into 4
squares and tape a pair vertically on one setup and a pair
horizontally on the other. If it works I might fit the filters behind
the front panel on the Toppys similar behind the 'windows' on the
remotes.

As long as the remote Toppy pairs are held true it should work for
the direct transmissions but I'm not sure about any of the hard
reflections?

Cheers, T i m