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Old February 3rd 14, 12:31 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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Well yes I agree in principal, but there are people who do make it up as
they go along. If you listen to the talkback to the presenter, in say a
sport broadcast, say at Wimbledon, you hear wind it up in 15 to the
presenter and she/he has to not indicate that its been heard and adjust
their spiel to suit. A Certain Ms Barker is extraordinary good at this ferom
what I hear.
Some are less good though...
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"Dickie mint" wrote in message
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On 02/02/2014 10:15, Davey wrote:
BBC News this morning, floods. Description of Special Vehicles for
doing the pumping, subtitled as 'Special Beer Halls'. On the other
hand.....

BBC R & D, along with "the industry" are researching the problems:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/publications/whitepaper259

On a truly live broadcast, where the speaker is making the wording up as
he goes along and is not using a script, it can be a real problem. However
even in those situations the software should probably be given a likely
vocabulary of words and place/people names that may be mentioned to avoid
at least some of the howlers.

But I've also seen the problem with recorded TV news reports, where it is
not beyond the wit of man for the reporter to submit, along with the
recording of the report, the script of his voiceover - I presume most
reporters write down what they are going to say and then read it back,
rather than speaking totally off the cuff. In that situation they could
send the Word document (or whatever) that they spent time writing and
cutting/tweaking to fit the time and the pictures.

Likewise for the links read by the newsreader. They are often displayed
word by word with a considerable lag, as if someone is transcribing them
on-the-fly instead of using the same text that is sent to the teleprompter
and which the newsreader is reading.



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Old February 3rd 14, 12:41 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:18:07 +0000, Dickie mint
wrote:

On 02/02/2014 14:41, NY wrote:
"Roger Mills" wrote in message
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On 02/02/2014 10:15, Davey wrote:
BBC News this morning, floods. Description of Special Vehicles for
doing the pumping, subtitled as 'Special Beer Halls'. On the other
hand.....


Sounds like they generate their subtitles by some means which relies
on voice (mis)recognition rather than typing them.


I think subtitles are generated in the same way as transcripts of court
proceedings, using a Palantype or Stenograph keyboard in which the
sounds of words is keyed-in and software tries to translate this into
meaningful words. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech-to-text_reporter

Gone are the days of the stenographers - too expensive.

Now they have "transcribers" who re-speak the words and have voice
recognition software "trained" to their voice.

They are looking at improving it's accuracy.

Richard



Improving it is accuracy?


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Old February 3rd 14, 01:33 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_2_]
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Graham. wrote:

They are looking at improving it's accuracy.

Richard



Improving it is accuracy?


We all do it sometimes, as a typo. Even I do it, and I am a paragon.

Bill
 




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