Today's Subtitle boob

BBC News this morning, floods. Description of Special Vehicles for
doing the pumping, subtitled as 'Special Beer Halls'. On the other
hand.....

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On 02/02/2014 10:15, Davey wrote:
BBC News this morning, floods. Description of Special Vehicles for
doing the pumping, subtitled as 'Special Beer Halls'. On the other
hand.....


Sounds like they generate their subtitles by some means which relies on
voice (mis)recognition rather than typing them.
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On 02/02/2014 10:15, Davey wrote:
BBC News this morning, floods. Description of Special Vehicles for
doing the pumping, subtitled as 'Special Beer Halls'. On the other
hand.....


Sounds like they generate their subtitles by some means which relies on
voice (mis)recognition rather than typing them.

I think subtitles are generated in the same way as transcripts of court
proceedings, using a Palantype or Stenograph keyboard in which the sounds of
words is keyed-in and software tries to translate this into meaningful
words. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech-to-text_reporter

Well one channel had meet the Fokkers on the other day, I wonder what the
subtitles said it was called?

Brian

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On 02/02/2014 10:15, Davey wrote:
BBC News this morning, floods. Description of Special Vehicles for
doing the pumping, subtitled as 'Special Beer Halls'. On the other
hand.....


Sounds like they generate their subtitles by some means which relies on
voice (mis)recognition rather than typing them.
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Well one channel had meet the Fokkers on the other day, I wonder what the
subtitles said it was called?

Brian


In the show "Married with Children" the maiden name of the character
Peggy Bundy was Peggy ******. This word clearly doesn't have the same
connotation there as it does here, and was mentioned (and presumably
subtitled) in some episodes.




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Roger Mills wrote:
On 02/02/2014 10:15, Davey wrote:
BBC News this morning, floods. Description of Special Vehicles for
doing the pumping, subtitled as 'Special Beer Halls'. On the other
hand.....


Sounds like they generate their subtitles by some means which relies on
voice (mis)recognition rather than typing them.

Correct.

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On 02/02/2014 14:41, NY wrote:
"Roger Mills" wrote in message
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On 02/02/2014 10:15, Davey wrote:
BBC News this morning, floods. Description of Special Vehicles for
doing the pumping, subtitled as 'Special Beer Halls'. On the other
hand.....


Sounds like they generate their subtitles by some means which relies
on voice (mis)recognition rather than typing them.

I think subtitles are generated in the same way as transcripts of court
proceedings, using a Palantype or Stenograph keyboard in which the
sounds of words is keyed-in and software tries to translate this into
meaningful words. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech-to-text_reporter
Gone are the days of the stenographers - too expensive.

Now they have "transcribers" who re-speak the words and have voice
recognition software "trained" to their voice.

They are looking at improving it's accuracy.

Richard

On 02/02/2014 10:15, Davey wrote:
BBC News this morning, floods. Description of Special Vehicles for
doing the pumping, subtitled as 'Special Beer Halls'. On the other
hand.....

BBC R & D, along with "the industry" are researching the problems:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/publications/whitepaper259

Richard

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On 02/02/2014 10:15, Davey wrote:
BBC News this morning, floods. Description of Special Vehicles for
doing the pumping, subtitled as 'Special Beer Halls'. On the other
hand.....

BBC R & D, along with "the industry" are researching the problems:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/publications/whitepaper259

On a truly live broadcast, where the speaker is making the wording up as he
goes along and is not using a script, it can be a real problem. However even
in those situations the software should probably be given a likely
vocabulary of words and place/people names that may be mentioned to avoid at
least some of the howlers.

But I've also seen the problem with recorded TV news reports, where it is
not beyond the wit of man for the reporter to submit, along with the
recording of the report, the script of his voiceover - I presume most
reporters write down what they are going to say and then read it back,
rather than speaking totally off the cuff. In that situation they could send
the Word document (or whatever) that they spent time writing and
cutting/tweaking to fit the time and the pictures.

Likewise for the links read by the newsreader. They are often displayed word
by word with a considerable lag, as if someone is transcribing them
on-the-fly instead of using the same text that is sent to the teleprompter
and which the newsreader is reading.

But if they have subbed it out to a third party, then surely its up to the
company to sort it. We all know that speech recognition can be very bad in a
noisy environment, so really there is nothing new here.

Brian

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On 02/02/2014 10:15, Davey wrote:
BBC News this morning, floods. Description of Special Vehicles for
doing the pumping, subtitled as 'Special Beer Halls'. On the other
hand.....

BBC R & D, along with "the industry" are researching the problems:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/publications/whitepaper259

Richard