Russ Andrews wins again!

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...DJ_228690.aspx

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JohnT

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:15:18 -0000
"JohnT" wrote:

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...DJ_228690.aspx


Quote:
"... we considered that consumers would understand from the qualifying
statement that the reference to the lab results did not necessarily
mean that the same results would be achieved by consumers in the home."


Er, um, ok, then.
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:15:18 -0000, "JohnT"
wrote:

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...DJ_228690.aspx

'...considered that the results appeared to show a reduction in
decibels...'

Wow!

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He does seem a little, um unconventional. I'm surprised anyone takes his ads
seriously in any case, but if you make something there are always people
willing to buy it, much like that Bomb detector and the oil prospecting
device of recent years. The problem is that Russ is not a con man, he
actually believes it all....
Brian

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If I tip a mug of cold beer into the river, for a short time I can detect
its presence, but soon the dilution of all that water makes it invisible and
to all intents and purposes undetectable, although its still in the river.
Brian

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On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:15:18 -0000
"JohnT" wrote:

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...DJ_228690.aspx


Quote:
"... we considered that consumers would understand from the qualifying
statement that the reference to the lab results did not necessarily
mean that the same results would be achieved by consumers in the home."


Er, um, ok, then.
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Homeopathic electronics anyone?

Brian
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:15:18 -0000, "JohnT"
wrote:

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...DJ_228690.aspx

'...considered that the results appeared to show a reduction in
decibels...'

Wow!

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By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

In article , Alan
wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:15:18 -0000, "JohnT"
wrote:

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...DJ_228690.aspx

'...considered that the results appeared to show a reduction in
decibels...'

Wow!

The ASA have form as long as yer arm for this kind of thing. Its a bit like
the way drugs companies compare their latest high-price drug in trials with
'placebo' so they can say how good it is when they cherry-pick which of
their confidential trials to eventually publish. Better than nothing in
some situations. Wonderful! But better than many cheaper alteratives a lot
of the time?... silence. The regulators allow this and even support the
data being suppressed.

WRT RA and RF-reducing mains cables, etc, yes using one mains cable or
another may change the amount of RF in a test. Which tells you nothing
about if any other cable would have done any worse or better in any other
real case. But the ASA are there to legitimise adverts. Not to do real
science.

FWIW I did an analysis of a similar case years ago. But my flabber wasn't
ghasted much when the ASA thought all was well. Tells you more about them
than about the things they 'investigate'.

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/cables/ma...ingTheory.html

Jim

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Brian Gaff put finger to keyboard:

He does seem a little, um unconventional. I'm surprised anyone takes his
ads seriously in any case, but if you make something there are always
people willing to buy it, much like that Bomb detector and the oil
prospecting device of recent years. The problem is that Russ is not a
con man, he actually believes it all....
Brian

It is possible that there is a placebo effect going on, though. Just like
my car seems to be a bit more sprightly after an oil change or it's passed
its MOT, perhaps buying a stupidly expensive cable gives a _perceived_
audio improvement to some people.

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:18:36 +0000, Alan
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:15:18 -0000, "JohnT"
wrote:

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...DJ_228690.aspx

'...considered that the results appeared to show a reduction in
decibels...'

Wow!

Bad things those "decibels".

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(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

"Scion" wrote in message ...

Brian Gaff put finger to keyboard:

He does seem a little, um unconventional. I'm surprised anyone takes his
ads seriously in any case, but if you make something there are always
people willing to buy it, much like that Bomb detector and the oil
prospecting device of recent years. The problem is that Russ is not a
con man, he actually believes it all....
Brian



It is possible that there is a placebo effect going on, though. Just like
my car seems to be a bit more sprightly after an oil change or it's passed
its MOT,



Or as they used to say back in more unenlightened times, 'it always seems to
run so much better after a couple of pints'.