Let 'battle' commence

TV broadcasters fear digital frequency spectrum battle
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25799928

"Demand for new mobile services is growing so fast that the UK's TV networks
fear they may be squeezed out by competition for limited frequencies on the
radio spectrum they broadcast over."

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:00:23 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

TV broadcasters fear digital frequency spectrum battle
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25799928

"Demand for new mobile services is growing so fast that the UK's TV networks
fear they may be squeezed out by competition for limited frequencies on the
radio spectrum they broadcast over."

"But the report from Digital UK, whose members include the BBC, ITV,
Channel 4 and the transmitter company Arqiva, says the appetite for
watching video on mobile devices - one of the greediest uses of mobile
spectrum - is largely being met by wifi.

It says three-quarters of tablet computers are today wifi only, with
no mobile connectivity"

Gun bullet foot

If you can watch video by wifi, you can watch TV broadcast as well.
They'll have to do better than this.

In article ,
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:00:23 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

TV broadcasters fear digital frequency spectrum battle
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25799928

"Demand for new mobile services is growing so fast that the UK's TV
networks fear they may be squeezed out by competition for limited
frequencies on the radio spectrum they broadcast over."

"But the report from Digital UK, whose members include the BBC, ITV,
Channel 4 and the transmitter company Arqiva, says the appetite for
watching video on mobile devices - one of the greediest uses of mobile
spectrum - is largely being met by wifi.

It says three-quarters of tablet computers are today wifi only, with no
mobile connectivity"

Gun bullet foot

If you can watch video by wifi, you can watch TV broadcast as well.
They'll have to do better than this.

However it may suit them to cut back on the spectrum available for DTTV as
it may make it harder for people to get decent results that way. Cuts the
competition for the phone/net companies.

Jim

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:15:08 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:00:23 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

TV broadcasters fear digital frequency spectrum battle
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25799928

"Demand for new mobile services is growing so fast that the UK's TV
networks fear they may be squeezed out by competition for limited
frequencies on the radio spectrum they broadcast over."

"But the report from Digital UK, whose members include the BBC, ITV,
Channel 4 and the transmitter company Arqiva, says the appetite for
watching video on mobile devices - one of the greediest uses of mobile
spectrum - is largely being met by wifi.

It says three-quarters of tablet computers are today wifi only, with no
mobile connectivity"

Gun bullet foot

If you can watch video by wifi, you can watch TV broadcast as well.
They'll have to do better than this.

However it may suit them to cut back on the spectrum available for DTTV as
it may make it harder for people to get decent results that way. Cuts the
competition for the phone/net companies.

Depends who you mean by 'they'. The DTV spectrum will be cut back in
stages to public service only, pushing viewers to alternative means of
reception. The big reduction in DTV spectrum will happen in 2022.

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article ,
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:00:23 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

TV broadcasters fear digital frequency spectrum battle
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25799928

"Demand for new mobile services is growing so fast that the UK's TV
networks fear they may be squeezed out by competition for limited
frequencies on the radio spectrum they broadcast over."

"But the report from Digital UK, whose members include the BBC, ITV,
Channel 4 and the transmitter company Arqiva, says the appetite for
watching video on mobile devices - one of the greediest uses of mobile
spectrum - is largely being met by wifi.

It says three-quarters of tablet computers are today wifi only, with no
mobile connectivity"

Gun bullet foot

If you can watch video by wifi, you can watch TV broadcast as well.
They'll have to do better than this.

However it may suit them to cut back on the spectrum available for DTTV as
it may make it harder for people to get decent results that way. Cuts the
competition for the phone/net companies.

why would "they" want to do this

tim

In article ,
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:15:08 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:


However it may suit them to cut back on the spectrum available for DTTV
as it may make it harder for people to get decent results that way.
Cuts the competition for the phone/net companies.

Depends who you mean by 'they'.

My impression is that 'they' can be defined in terms of whichever companies
are willing to pay enough money to OfCom/Government to get changes which
suit them/

The DTV spectrum will be cut back in stages to public service only,
pushing viewers to alternative means of reception.

Well if they maintained the quality I'd personally be fairly happy with BBC
plus Ch4. However I suspect that by 2022 'they' may have grudgingly spread
decent internet connections a bit wider to cover locations like the one
where I live. For me the main race is between that and my ceasing to be in
a state where such things will matter! 8-]

Slainte,

Jim

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:09:55 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
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Well if they maintained the quality I'd personally be fairly happy with BBC
plus Ch4. However I suspect that by 2022 'they' may have grudgingly spread
decent internet connections a bit wider to cover locations like the one
where I live.

That is the general expectation amongst 'them'. Plus of course a very
heavily populated GSO.

For me the main race is between that and my ceasing to be in
a state where such things will matter! 8-]

Same here. Perhaps we can all meet up in 2022 to see it happen.

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In article ,
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:15:08 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:


However it may suit them to cut back on the spectrum available for DTTV
as it may make it harder for people to get decent results that way.
Cuts the competition for the phone/net companies.

Depends who you mean by 'they'.

My impression is that 'they' can be defined in terms of whichever
companies
are willing to pay enough money to OfCom/Government to get changes which
suit them/

The DTV spectrum will be cut back in stages to public service only,
pushing viewers to alternative means of reception.

Well if they maintained the quality I'd personally be fairly happy with
BBC
plus Ch4.

Just because you wouldn't miss:
ITV3/4
Film 4
Yesterday
Quest
and several others
doesn't mean that I wouldn't

tim

On 20/01/2014 12:00, Max Demian wrote:
TV broadcasters fear digital frequency spectrum battle
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25799928

"Demand for new mobile services is growing so fast that the UK's TV networks
fear they may be squeezed out by competition for limited frequencies on the
radio spectrum they broadcast over."


The paragraph: "The 700MHz band is already used for mobile services in
the US and Asia and is likely to be allocated globally for mobile use at
the next World Radio Communications conference next year." is
interesting. Who makes the global allocations? Are we (the UK) expected
to meekly comply?

The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that this is all part of the bigger
plan to move TV reception off DTT altogether and onto DSAT and IPTV. In
itself that's not necessarily a bad thing, unless HMG hands it all to
the likes of Sky, so that the only way to receive DSAT is to pay.
Freesat's lacklustre performance is a case in point. Whilst there are
plenty of ads. on TV for Freeview, I can't recall seeing anything
recently for Freesat. No wonder manufacturers are running a mile.

Personally, I have no interest in watching TV programmes on a tiny
screen, but it seems that the yoof of today demand that. The mobile
'phone companies are happy to oblige, effectively ignoring anyone over
the age 25 (or so it seems to me). Neither do I have much interest in
watching TV programmes on a 7" or 10" tablet, unless perhaps it's
something to help a long journey pass.

The article is right in one thing though: I, like many people access the
'Net when I need to via wi-fi. I can't recall the last time I tried
accessing something via a 3G connection - it was just too slow, and
colleagues experiences with the variable performance of 4G leaves me
unimpressed.

We'll see, I suppose .....


Clem

In article , tim......
wrote:

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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The DTV spectrum will be cut back in stages to public service only,
pushing viewers to alternative means of reception.

Well if they maintained the quality I'd personally be fairly happy
with BBC plus Ch4.

Just because you wouldn't miss: ITV3/4 Film 4 Yesterday Quest and
several others doesn't mean that I wouldn't

You may have missed my use of the word "personally".

Similarly, personally I'd wish to *not* to find that money is taken from me
in shops to pay for adverts I don't see. But I do realise that
manufacturers, advertising companies, and indeed OfCom don't give a hoot
for what I'd prefer. :-)

Jim

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