Broadcasting duration

"Davey" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 12:47:15 +0100
"tim......" wrote:


"PeterC" wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 20:05:39 +0100, tim...... wrote:



I had to de-select AR as such operation is CFU in my book

I've not yet found a use for it.

I'd like to have series link and padding

there's no technical reason why they can't offer it, they just decide
not to

tim



See elsewhere, it works on my recent Humax.

on the HD one

not on the SD variants which they still sell,

tim

On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:21:45 +0100, tim......
wrote:

not that I watch it (I just see it start as it comes straight after the
local news), but "the one show" always starts at least 2 minutes early -
what the **** is that all about!

It's so they have time to shove in the otherwise unscheduled 90s news
bulletin just before 8pm.

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:21:45 +0100, tim......
wrote:

not that I watch it (I just see it start as it comes straight after the
local news), but "the one show" always starts at least 2 minutes early -
what the **** is that all about!

It's so they have time to shove in the otherwise unscheduled 90s news
bulletin just before 8pm.

I reckon it is a ploy to start ahead of other channels on the
same nominal timing (like publishing magazines progressively
earlier each month).

IIRC, when tackled about the issue, the official response was to
the effect that, to make it "simpler for the viewer" timings were
tidied up to the nearest 5 minute point.

I raised the matter on a visit to the BBC studio locally, where I
was actually able to sit in a control room and hear the network
give the countdown down the line, for The One Show, in compliance
with the printed running sheet in front of me, at 18:58. No
explanation was forthcoming.

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


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On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:43:24 +0000, Chris J Dixon
wrote:

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:21:45 +0100, tim......
wrote:

not that I watch it (I just see it start as it comes straight after the
local news), but "the one show" always starts at least 2 minutes early -
what the **** is that all about!

It's so they have time to shove in the otherwise unscheduled 90s news
bulletin just before 8pm.

I reckon it is a ploy to start ahead of other channels on the
same nominal timing (like publishing magazines progressively
earlier each month).

IIRC, when tackled about the issue, the official response was to
the effect that, to make it "simpler for the viewer" timings were
tidied up to the nearest 5 minute point.

I raised the matter on a visit to the BBC studio locally, where I
was actually able to sit in a control room and hear the network
give the countdown down the line, for The One Show, in compliance
with the printed running sheet in front of me, at 18:58. No
explanation was forthcoming.


IME, BBC2 run a tighter ship in regard of programme start times which
is why I pad out the start of BBC1 programs by 3 minutes and 2 1/2
minutes for BBC2. BBC3 and 4 is tighter still and I use 2 minutes
padding on these channels.

Most of the time, on all BBC channels, the programs usually start a
minute or two late which is why I usually pad the length by 8, 7 and 6
minutes respectively for BBCs One, Two and Three/Four.
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Regards, J B Good

Johny B Good wrote:

IME, BBC2 run a tighter ship in regard of programme start times which
is why I pad out the start of BBC1 programs by 3 minutes and 2 1/2
minutes for BBC2. BBC3 and 4 is tighter still and I use 2 minutes
padding on these channels.

Most of the time, on all BBC channels, the programs usually start a
minute or two late which is why I usually pad the length by 8, 7 and 6
minutes respectively for BBCs One, Two and Three/Four.

With my Humax 9200T I pad by 2 minutes before and 5 after, which
generally works.

It accepts the scheduling if there are overlaps (when you include
the padding) but sometimes the padding might be ignored, and
recording may finish early.

Occasionally a programme will start recording, but stop 2 minutes
later at the actual start time.

Even more rarely (usually C5, for some reason) it fails to stop.
As I pad (and thus can't use accurate recording) I can't quite
work out how this happens.

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:43:24 +0000, Chris J Dixon wrote:

It's so they have time to shove in the otherwise unscheduled 90s news
bulletin just before 8pm.

I reckon it is a ploy to start ahead of other channels on the
same nominal timing (like publishing magazines progressively
earlier each month).

IIRC, when tackled about the issue, the official response was to
the effect that, to make it "simpler for the viewer" timings were
tidied up to the nearest 5 minute point.

I raised the matter on a visit to the BBC studio locally, where I
was actually able to sit in a control room and hear the network
give the countdown down the line, for The One Show, in compliance
with the printed running sheet in front of me, at 18:58. No
explanation was forthcoming.

Did you not read what I wrote and what you quoted? That IS the reason.

On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:09:13 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

However, I've subsequently found something else that works for me, and
if it ever needs replacing, it would be an expensive experiment at
probably £150+ to buy anything different just to find out if it would
do instead (and I don't suppose there will ever be any point trying to
find a sales assistant who could tell me). It makes more sense for me
to keep to what I know. Effectively, the first impression given by the
clumsy software in that early machine has lost them any possibility of
further sales to me. I'm happy with what I've got, so it's their loss.

And you were complaining of someone else being "blinkered" today...

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:09:40 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:


However, I've subsequently found something else that works for me, and
if it ever needs replacing, it would be an expensive experiment at
probably £150+ to buy anything different just to find out if it would
do instead (and I don't suppose there will ever be any point trying to
find a sales assistant who could tell me). It makes more sense for me
to keep to what I know. Effectively, the first impression given by the
clumsy software in that early machine has lost them any possibility of
further sales to me. I'm happy with what I've got, so it's their loss.

And you were complaining of someone else being "blinkered" today...

There's a difference between denouncing something and simply having no
interest in it myself. That's the difference between being blinkered
and not bothering to look because I have no need to, while being
prepared to give it a look if I ever do need to. I expect most of us
stop bothering to investigate alternatives once we've found something
that suits us. It doesn't mean we're blinkered, just that we've got
better things to do with our time.

Rod.

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:43:24 +0000, Chris J Dixon wrote:

It's so they have time to shove in the otherwise unscheduled 90s news
bulletin just before 8pm.

I reckon it is a ploy to start ahead of other channels on the
same nominal timing (like publishing magazines progressively
earlier each month).

IIRC, when tackled about the issue, the official response was to
the effect that, to make it "simpler for the viewer" timings were
tidied up to the nearest 5 minute point.

I raised the matter on a visit to the BBC studio locally, where I
was actually able to sit in a control room and hear the network
give the countdown down the line, for The One Show, in compliance
with the printed running sheet in front of me, at 18:58. No
explanation was forthcoming.

Did you not read what I wrote and what you quoted? That IS the reason.

Yes, I both read and understood your assertion, and am looking
forward to reading your evidence for this.

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 07:29:58 +0000, Chris J Dixon wrote:

It's so they have time to shove in the otherwise unscheduled 90s news
bulletin just before 8pm.

I reckon it is a ploy to start ahead of other channels on the
same nominal timing (like publishing magazines progressively
earlier each month).

IIRC, when tackled about the issue, the official response was to
the effect that, to make it "simpler for the viewer" timings were
tidied up to the nearest 5 minute point.

I raised the matter on a visit to the BBC studio locally, where I
was actually able to sit in a control room and hear the network
give the countdown down the line, for The One Show, in compliance
with the printed running sheet in front of me, at 18:58. No
explanation was forthcoming.

Did you not read what I wrote and what you quoted? That IS the reason.

Yes, I both read and understood your assertion, and am looking
forward to reading your evidence for this.

It's not rocket science is it?
How else would there be time for an unscheduled bulletin if something
else wasn't either significantly shorter than its nominal duration or
started earlier?
That is all the 'evidence' you are going to get (from me), so you are
of course free to think what else you like.