Why does BBC 1 now call itself BBC1 LON?

OK a while back I asked what bbc 1 leng was, well the talking Goodmans box
still calls it thatbut I've had confirmation that it is indeed LON, so why
its not said right must be down to the speech synth in the box.
However no other station on Freeview identifies its region in this way. I
can understand it on the sat feed, but it seems pointless on Freeview
unless there are now so many people who cannot tell which transmitter is
their right one its there to help them out!

Brian

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On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 10:57:39 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
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OK a while back I asked what bbc 1 leng was, well the talking Goodmans box
still calls it thatbut I've had confirmation that it is indeed LON, so why
its not said right must be down to the speech synth in the box.
However no other station on Freeview identifies its region in this way. I
can understand it on the sat feed, but it seems pointless on Freeview
unless there are now so many people who cannot tell which transmitter is
their right one its there to help them out!

Depends where you live. Mine is called 'BBC 1 Scot' :-)

Unnecessary it may be, but I can see some logic in distinguishing if
the two differ. As a matter of interest, I assume all of England
receives BBC 1 LON HD?

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 11:27:17 +0000
Scott wrote:

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 10:57:39 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

OK a while back I asked what bbc 1 leng was, well the talking
Goodmans box still calls it thatbut I've had confirmation that it is
indeed LON, so why its not said right must be down to the speech
synth in the box.
However no other station on Freeview identifies its region in this
way. I
can understand it on the sat feed, but it seems pointless on
Freeview unless there are now so many people who cannot tell which
transmitter is their right one its there to help them out!

Depends where you live. Mine is called 'BBC 1 Scot' :-)

Unnecessary it may be, but I can see some logic in distinguishing if
the two differ. As a matter of interest, I assume all of England
receives BBC 1 LON HD?

Mine, from Tacolneston, Norfolk, calls itself BBC 1 East. I don't
bother with HD, so can't answer that question.

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On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:32:04 +0000, Davey
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 11:27:17 +0000
Scott wrote:

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 10:57:39 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

OK a while back I asked what bbc 1 leng was, well the talking
Goodmans box still calls it thatbut I've had confirmation that it is
indeed LON, so why its not said right must be down to the speech
synth in the box.
However no other station on Freeview identifies its region in this
way. I
can understand it on the sat feed, but it seems pointless on
Freeview unless there are now so many people who cannot tell which
transmitter is their right one its there to help them out!

Depends where you live. Mine is called 'BBC 1 Scot' :-)

Unnecessary it may be, but I can see some logic in distinguishing if
the two differ. As a matter of interest, I assume all of England
receives BBC 1 LON HD?

Mine, from Tacolneston, Norfolk, calls itself BBC 1 East. I don't
bother with HD, so can't answer that question.

Seems half the people think HD is brilliant and the other half can't
see much difference. You and I must be in different categories.

On 31/12/2013 11:27, Scott wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 10:57:39 -0000, "Brian Gaff"

Unnecessary it may be, but I can see some logic in distinguishing if
the two differ.

It's handy if you end up receiving an adjacent region, and the weaker
version ends up on LCN 1 rather than 800+, you can see what's gone
wrong, (but of course not necessarily have the knowledge to put it right !)

As a matter of interest, I assume all of England
receives BBC 1 LON HD?

No. It's labelled as 'BBC ONE HD', and it's not the London version,
the regional opt out segments are filled with more or less this caption:-

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/yL4CkmWxMJM/hqdefault.jpg

So rather than viewers in the largest English region not having to
switch back to SD to see the local news, everyone in England
can feel unified in having to do so.


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In article ,
Scott wrote:
Seems half the people think HD is brilliant and the other half can't
see much difference. You and I must be in different categories.

I would have expected most people who have looked at it to be in a
category "yes, it's obviously better, but not as much as I'd hoped".

-- Richard

Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Scott wrote:
Seems half the people think HD is brilliant and the other half can't
see much difference. You and I must be in different categories.

I would have expected most people who have looked at it to be in a
category "yes, it's obviously better, but not as much as I'd hoped".

-- Richard

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On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 13:27:57 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

On 31/12/2013 11:27, Scott wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 10:57:39 -0000, "Brian Gaff"

Unnecessary it may be, but I can see some logic in distinguishing if
the two differ.

It's handy if you end up receiving an adjacent region, and the weaker
version ends up on LCN 1 rather than 800+, you can see what's gone
wrong, (but of course not necessarily have the knowledge to put it right !)

As a matter of interest, I assume all of England
receives BBC 1 LON HD?

No. It's labelled as 'BBC ONE HD', and it's not the London version,
the regional opt out segments are filled with more or less this caption:-

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/yL4CkmWxMJM/hqdefault.jpg

Yes indeed, we used to have that in the old days :-)

So rather than viewers in the largest English region not having to
switch back to SD to see the local news, everyone in England
can feel unified in having to do so.

They have missed a trick in not doing this at 11 pm on BBC Two.
Viewers in Scotland are exposed to Newsnight non-Scotland instead of
being forced to retune to Newsnight Scotland. Could prove useful in
the lead-up to the referendum for those who have already made up their
minds :-)

In article , Scott
wrote:


They have missed a trick in not doing this at 11 pm on BBC Two. Viewers
in Scotland are exposed to Newsnight non-Scotland instead of being
forced to retune to Newsnight Scotland. Could prove useful in the
lead-up to the referendum for those who have already made up their minds
:-)

One amusing irony of the way the BBC organise sic themselves showed up a
few days ago.

During the morning they had a 'news' item about discovery of a van Dyke
painting by the people on the Antiques Roadshow. This was ended with
pointing out that we could watch a report on this during the AR show 'that
evening'.

Erm... not in Scotland via FreeView. We had the excitement of Scottish
Country Dancing and a prog about the countryside. No doubt we'll soon be
having a series on how to make shortbread... :-)

This did rather expose two things.

1) That the 'news' report was actually a trail. The AR people must have
known for many days to get this into the AR 'that evening'. So not 'news'
that morning.

2) No joined-up-planning. Trailing over the UK as 'news' something that
wasn't actually going to be broadcast via Freeview over a large part of the
UK. Presumably no-one producing the news programs had a clue about
Scotland, and no-one spoke to anyone there to check.

Have the feeling that no one at the BBC in England know or care about
anything broadcast in Scotland.

Added irony: Apparently this 'discovery' was prompted by Fiona Bruce on the
programme

Slainte,

Jim

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Richard Tobin wrote:

I would have expected most people who have looked at it to be in a
category "yes, it's obviously better, but not as much as I'd hoped".

I'm in that category. It ****es me off that loads of fine detail is
"smoothed out" so the picture is much lower definition than the pixel
count allows for. Presumably the smoothing is done to remove high
frequency content and thus allow for a lower bandwidth.

Some 'Full HD' TVs have a built-in library of photos, to show off the
screen. My Sony has. The detail in those pictures is fantastic,
stunning and makes full use of the pixel count. Having studied one up
close, switch to an HD broadcast and study that up close, too.

You will be annoyed at how poorly it exploits your expensive 1920 x
1080 screen, I guarantee it.

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