Santa has delivered a wave frontier T90 dish.... I now have someimportant choices to make.....

I already have two dishes. A triax td 78 for all the sky and freesat stuff at Astra 2. This is fed into a triax multiswitch. The other dish is a triax td110 with multi LNB holder. This was used on Astra 1 and hot bird and fed into a emp centauri 17x16 multiswitch. This means I can have up to four sat positions.

I intend to reposition the triax td110 onto hispasat 30 west. With the multi LNB holder I can access sat positions over a 20 degree arc.

This means I will then have two fixed dishes at the extreme ends of the arc..

The wave frontier can accommodate up to 16 LNBs over a 40 degree arc which I plant to position somewhere along the arc from 23.5 east to 27.5 west.

I have acquired another 17x16 multiswitch.

Given that I will have hispasat on the td110, hot bird and Astra 1 on the wave frontier t90, I now have to choose five more sat positions......

I am thinking Astra 3, Sirius 5.0e, Thor 1.0 west then either

(A) 9/10 east and 16 east
(B) 5 west and 8 west.

I am also aware that hispasat and Sirius only use around half the ku band each so I could combine them into one diseqc position. This would give me a chance of adding a further LNB for either 12.5 west or 7 east.

I am in the East Midlands.

So what would yo go for choice wise and why?

I know many of you will say get a motor as it cheaper and easier but I have several sat boxes around the house with dual tuners and several computers with dual sat tuner cards and I was after many channels as possible and total freedom for all tuners to tune in to anything without being affected by other receivers...

On a related subject, the 60mm pole mount for the t90 does not look substantial. I am wondering what would be a better wall bracket give the dish and multiple LNB mass and the high wind loading....

I am using alps bullet nose Quattro LNBs so I can have them as close as 3 degrees on the wave frontier t90.

Blimey...
Will you have any time left to actually watchTV or will it be channel
hopping all night?
sorry, Just wondered what the main aim of this was.
If its just out of interest, then fine by me, but cannot think there is
much worth watching on some of those unless you speak the lingo that is.


Brian

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I already have two dishes. A triax td 78 for all the sky and freesat stuff
at Astra 2. This is fed into a triax multiswitch. The other dish is a triax
td110 with multi LNB holder. This was used on Astra 1 and hot bird and fed
into a emp centauri 17x16 multiswitch. This means I can have up to four sat
positions.

I intend to reposition the triax td110 onto hispasat 30 west. With the multi
LNB holder I can access sat positions over a 20 degree arc.

This means I will then have two fixed dishes at the extreme ends of the arc.

The wave frontier can accommodate up to 16 LNBs over a 40 degree arc which I
plant to position somewhere along the arc from 23.5 east to 27.5 west.

I have acquired another 17x16 multiswitch.

Given that I will have hispasat on the td110, hot bird and Astra 1 on the
wave frontier t90, I now have to choose five more sat positions......

I am thinking Astra 3, Sirius 5.0e, Thor 1.0 west then either

(A) 9/10 east and 16 east
(B) 5 west and 8 west.

I am also aware that hispasat and Sirius only use around half the ku band
each so I could combine them into one diseqc position. This would give me a
chance of adding a further LNB for either 12.5 west or 7 east.

I am in the East Midlands.

So what would yo go for choice wise and why?

I know many of you will say get a motor as it cheaper and easier but I have
several sat boxes around the house with dual tuners and several computers
with dual sat tuner cards and I was after many channels as possible and
total freedom for all tuners to tune in to anything without being affected
by other receivers...

On a related subject, the 60mm pole mount for the t90 does not look
substantial. I am wondering what would be a better wall bracket give the
dish and multiple LNB mass and the high wind loading....

I am using alps bullet nose Quattro LNBs so I can have them as close as 3
degrees on the wave frontier t90.

Brian Gaff wrote:
Blimey...
Will you have any time left to actually watchTV or will it be channel
hopping all night?
sorry, Just wondered what the main aim of this was.
If its just out of interest, then fine by me, but cannot think there is
much worth watching on some of those unless you speak the lingo that is.

I guess he's doing it for the same reason as I'm going to add three of
the local channels to my distribution system. Daftness.

Bill

On 28/12/2013 21:28, wrote:
I already have two dishes. A triax td 78 for all the sky and freesat stuff at Astra 2. This is fed into a triax multiswitch. The other dish is a triax td110 with multi LNB holder. This was used on Astra 1 and hot bird and fed into a emp centauri 17x16 multiswitch. This means I can have up to four sat positions.

I intend to reposition the triax td110 onto hispasat 30 west. With the multi LNB holder I can access sat positions over a 20 degree arc.

This means I will then have two fixed dishes at the extreme ends of the arc.

The wave frontier can accommodate up to 16 LNBs over a 40 degree arc which I plant to position somewhere along the arc from 23.5 east to 27.5 west.

I have acquired another 17x16 multiswitch.

Given that I will have hispasat on the td110, hot bird and Astra 1 on the wave frontier t90, I now have to choose five more sat positions......

I am thinking Astra 3, Sirius 5.0e, Thor 1.0 west then either

(A) 9/10 east and 16 east
(B) 5 west and 8 west.

I am also aware that hispasat and Sirius only use around half the ku band each so I could combine them into one diseqc position. This would give me a chance of adding a further LNB for either 12.5 west or 7 east.

I am in the East Midlands.

So what would yo go for choice wise and why?

I know many of you will say get a motor as it cheaper and easier but I have several sat boxes around the house with dual tuners and several computers with dual sat tuner cards and I was after many channels as possible and total freedom for all tuners to tune in to anything without being affected by other receivers...

On a related subject, the 60mm pole mount for the t90 does not look substantial. I am wondering what would be a better wall bracket give the dish and multiple LNB mass and the high wind loading....

I am using alps bullet nose Quattro LNBs so I can have them as close as 3 degrees on the wave frontier t90.


I use 9E as that has TF1 HD unencrypted. (Swiss version)

Do you have a picture of the pole mount you are referring to? The tripod
one that appears in some pictures clearly needs a flat horizontal
service which you may or may not have.

I hope you like putting on F plugs.


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Michael Chare

On 29/12/2013 16:35, Michael Chare wrote:
On 28/12/2013 21:28, wrote:
I already have two dishes. A triax td 78 for all the sky and freesat
stuff at Astra 2. This is fed into a triax multiswitch. The other
dish is a triax td110 with multi LNB holder. This was used on Astra 1
and hot bird and fed into a emp centauri 17x16 multiswitch. This means
I can have up to four sat positions.

I intend to reposition the triax td110 onto hispasat 30 west. With the
multi LNB holder I can access sat positions over a 20 degree arc.

This means I will then have two fixed dishes at the extreme ends of
the arc.

The wave frontier can accommodate up to 16 LNBs over a 40 degree arc
which I plant to position somewhere along the arc from 23.5 east to
27.5 west.

I have acquired another 17x16 multiswitch.

Given that I will have hispasat on the td110, hot bird and Astra 1 on
the wave frontier t90, I now have to choose five more sat positions......

I am thinking Astra 3, Sirius 5.0e, Thor 1.0 west then either

(A) 9/10 east and 16 east
(B) 5 west and 8 west.

I am also aware that hispasat and Sirius only use around half the ku
band each so I could combine them into one diseqc position. This would
give me a chance of adding a further LNB for either 12.5 west or 7 east.

I am in the East Midlands.

So what would yo go for choice wise and why?

I know many of you will say get a motor as it cheaper and easier but I
have several sat boxes around the house with dual tuners and several
computers with dual sat tuner cards and I was after many channels as
possible and total freedom for all tuners to tune in to anything
without being affected by other receivers...

On a related subject, the 60mm pole mount for the t90 does not look
substantial. I am wondering what would be a better wall bracket give
the dish and multiple LNB mass and the high wind loading....

I am using alps bullet nose Quattro LNBs so I can have them as close
as 3 degrees on the wave frontier t90.


I use 9E as that has TF1 HD unencrypted. (Swiss version)

Do you have a picture of the pole mount you are referring to? The tripod
one that appears in some pictures clearly needs a flat horizontal
service which you may or may not have.

I hope you like putting on F plugs.




Its on page 4 of http://www.wavefrontier.us/materials/T55P.pdf and heres
a pic of one on a wall.

http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/a...242-jpg.42732/

As you can see it looks rather flimsy for a T90 dish that has two
reflectors so much higher wind loading factor than a single reflector
dish. I tend to use two K brackets for my poles.

The weaknesses I see is that the side arms look like they are made of
thin pieces of pipe with flattened ends so will bend easily. The pole
has a nut and bolt at the bottom connecting it to the wall bracket.

And the wieght of up to 16 Quattro LNB's and associated cabling....

I've got screwing F plugs down to an art.... I don't use my fingers
anymore as I got blisters. I now use a pair of pliers....

ah, yes, UPS. Definitely a good idea, but often such things tend to only
last very short times.
I wonder if one could make a system which would automatically start a
generator and bring that in before the batteries went down for all domestic
entertainment systems. I was attempting to move a tape to a computer
yesterday when a bad changeover completely ruined it and I had to start
again.
Brian

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"Stephen" wrote in message
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On 29/12/2013 16:27, Bill Wright wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
Blimey...
Will you have any time left to actually watchTV or will it be
channel hopping all night?
sorry, Just wondered what the main aim of this was.
If its just out of interest, then fine by me, but cannot think there
is much worth watching on some of those unless you speak the lingo
that is.

I guess he's doing it for the same reason as I'm going to add three of
the local channels to my distribution system. Daftness.

Bill

And I'm sticking some UPS on the head end. My own computers have UPS as
well with the sat tuner cards so I'm well prepared for
catastrophes/terorism/power cuts etc so I can actually find out whats
going on in the wider world.....

:-))))

Satellite DX fan wrote in message
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I already have two dishes. A triax td 78 for all the sky and freesat stuff
at Astra 2. This is fed into a triax multiswitch. The other dish is a
triax td110 with multi LNB holder. This was used on Astra 1 and hot bird
and fed into a emp centauri 17x16 multiswitch. This means I can have up to
four sat positions.

What a nice Santa - stopped of in the Czech Republic on his way to you - not
sure why you need a X16 multi-switch unless you are feeding a block of
flats. BTW a T90 and an EMP switch was the wish list spec' for our flats,
however few wanted satellite and the ones that did went for freebies from
$ky.

I intend to reposition the triax td110 onto hispasat 30 west. With the
multi LNB holder I can access sat positions over a 20 degree arc.

This means I will then have two fixed dishes at the extreme ends of the
arc.

The wave frontier can accommodate up to 16 LNBs over a 40 degree arc which
I plant to position somewhere along the arc from 23.5 east to 27.5 west.

I have acquired another 17x16 multiswitch.

Not sure about this - would you not have been better with the Multiswitch
MS33/12PIU-6 (33 in / 12 out) ? How are you going to combine the two
multi-switches?

Given that I will have hispasat on the td110, hot bird and Astra 1 on the
wave frontier t90, I now have to choose five more sat positions......

I am thinking Astra 3, Sirius 5.0e, Thor 1.0 west then either

(A) 9/10 east and 16 east
(B) 5 west and 8 west.

I am also aware that hispasat and Sirius only use around half the ku band
each so I could combine them into one diseqc position. This would give me a
chance of adding a further LNB for either 12.5 west or 7 east.

I am in the East Midlands.

So what would yo go for choice wise and why?

I know many of you will say get a motor as it cheaper and easier but I
have several sat boxes around the house with dual tuners and several
computers with dual sat tuner cards and I was after many channels as
possible and total freedom for all tuners to tune in to anything without
being affected by other receivers...

In fact I would have the T90 pointing at 28E, 19E, 13E and ANO, and a
steerable for anything else.

On a related subject, the 60mm pole mount for the t90 does not look
substantial. I am wondering what would be a better wall bracket give the
dish and multiple LNB mass and the high wind loading....

You want a 50mm minimum - probably a proper scaffolding pole. You need to
compensate for the weight of the dish and LNB's when aligning the pole
(which MUST be vertical +/- 0). If you can find a sheltered corner with
sufficient view to put yours then this will reduce the problem. I have a
1.2m Fibo steerable erected in a partly sheltered position ~1996. It was
partially pulled out of its mounting in gales at this time of year in 1998,
but has been sound since. It's view is from ~42E (partly obscured by my
conservatory) to ~45W, although these days I only use ~30E to 30W

I am using alps bullet nose Quattro LNBs so I can have them as close as 3
degrees on the wave frontier t90.

This means you can have 19, 16 & 13E

PS I gradually got bored of DX'ing for two reasons - 1. Lots of free stuff
on 28E and 2. Most of the decent stuff on other birds became encrypted.

On 30/12/2013 10:59, Brian Gaff wrote:
ah, yes, UPS. Definitely a good idea, but often such things tend to only
last very short times.
I wonder if one could make a system which would automatically start a
generator and bring that in before the batteries went down for all domestic
entertainment systems.

Definitely doable, folk that live off grid running an inverter off
batteries can start a genny when the wind, pv or hydro can't keep up
with the demand.
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Phil Cook

"Phil Cook" wrote in message
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On 30/12/2013 10:59, Brian Gaff wrote:
ah, yes, UPS. Definitely a good idea, but often such things tend to only
last very short times.
I wonder if one could make a system which would automatically start a
generator and bring that in before the batteries went down for all
domestic
entertainment systems.

Hospitals and major telephone exchanges have this...


Definitely doable, folk that live off grid running an inverter off
batteries can start a genny when the wind, pv or hydro can't keep up with
the demand.
--
Phil Cook

Stephen wrote:

I've got screwing F plugs down to an art.... I don't use my fingers
anymore as I got blisters. I now use a pair of pliers....

I learnt the hard way. I've got RSI from putting f plugs on.

Bill