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Old December 20th 13, 01:05 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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I watched a bit of 'Family Guy' on BBC Three HD last night and noticed
it was 4:3. I checked BBC Three SD and it was widescreen. Is there
any technical reason for this, I wonder, or was it just an error?
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Old December 20th 13, 01:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 20/12/2013 12:05, Scott wrote:
I watched a bit of 'Family Guy' on BBC Three HD last night and noticed
it was 4:3. I checked BBC Three SD and it was widescreen. Is there
any technical reason for this, I wonder, or was it just an error?




was 4:3 the right shape? - for older episodes it should be.
i often find the hd channels show 4:3 correctly while the SD one won't
unless you have chosen to set your tv to 4:3 mode.

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Old December 20th 13, 02:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:05:01 +0000, Scott
wrote:

I watched a bit of 'Family Guy' on BBC Three HD last night and noticed
it was 4:3. I checked BBC Three SD and it was widescreen. Is there
any technical reason for this, I wonder, or was it just an error?


Family Guy was only recently changed from 4:3 and some repeats are
quite old.

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Old December 20th 13, 03:13 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:34:44 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:05:01 +0000, Scott
wrote:

I watched a bit of 'Family Guy' on BBC Three HD last night and noticed
it was 4:3. I checked BBC Three SD and it was widescreen. Is there
any technical reason for this, I wonder, or was it just an error?


Family Guy was only recently changed from 4:3 and some repeats are
quite old.

I appreciate that, but how would that explain 16:9 on SD and 4:3 on HD
at the same time when the same episode is being shown?
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Old December 20th 13, 03:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Scott wrote:

I appreciate that, but how would that explain 16:9 on SD and 4:3 on HD
at the same time when the same episode is being shown?


Was there any geometric distortion on either version (hard to tell with
Peter Griffin !) In other words was the 4:3 version a centre crop ?

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Old December 20th 13, 03:38 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default BBC Three HD aspect ratio

In article ,
Mark Carver wrote:
Was there any geometric distortion on either version (hard to tell with
Peter Griffin !) In other words was the 4:3 version a centre crop ?


Both last night's episodes were very early ones, and would have been
made in 4:3. I saw about a minute of one of them on the HD channel,
and it was correctly displayed. I didn't look at the SD version.

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Old December 20th 13, 03:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Mark Carver wrote:
Was there any geometric distortion on either version (hard to tell with
Peter Griffin !) In other words was the 4:3 version a centre crop ?


Both last night's episodes were very early ones, and would have been
made in 4:3. I saw about a minute of one of them on the HD channel,
and it was correctly displayed. I didn't look at the SD version.


Well, I've never seen WSS signalling of 4:3 mode on HD channels,
4:3 progs I've seen seem to be presented with broadcaster added
side bars. If you think about, all HD screens are 16:9, so there's
no requirement for WSS on HD ?

Perhaps on SD the Beeb forgot/failed to signal 4:3 mode, and
the result would have been a stretched image, filling a 16:9 screen ?

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Old December 20th 13, 05:21 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Mark Carver wrote:

Well, I've never seen WSS signalling of 4:3 mode on HD channels,
4:3 progs I've seen seem to be presented with broadcaster added
side bars. If you think about, all HD screens are 16:9, so there's
no requirement for WSS on HD ?


My Panny plasma recommends setting the sidebars to some mid grey rather
than black for extended 4/3 viewing, which of course is not possible
with broadcast pillar box.

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Old December 20th 13, 10:00 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:17:01 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

Scott wrote:

I appreciate that, but how would that explain 16:9 on SD and 4:3 on HD
at the same time when the same episode is being shown?


Was there any geometric distortion on either version (hard to tell with
Peter Griffin !) In other words was the 4:3 version a centre crop ?


I did not look closely enough, unfortunately. Next time I will be
more observant!
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Old December 21st 13, 10:46 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Andy Furniss wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:

Well, I've never seen WSS signalling of 4:3 mode on HD channels,
4:3 progs I've seen seem to be presented with broadcaster added
side bars. If you think about, all HD screens are 16:9, so there's
no requirement for WSS on HD ?


My Panny plasma recommends setting the sidebars to some mid grey rather
than black for extended 4/3 viewing, which of course is not possible
with broadcast pillar box.


Indeed not, though 4:3 programming probably offers fewer burn in hazards than
the bright captions and tickers that plague some channels ?




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