OT bags

Gosh Bill,

This is almost as bad as me posting an OT about "DAB for Cars" - Ouch!

UK Traveller

"harryagain" wrote in message ...


"NY" wrote in message
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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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In Northern Ireland we have had the 5p levy on single-usecarrier bags
(paper as well as plastic) since April this year.

Why is there a levy on paper bags which are biodegradable? If the levy is
attempt to reduce the use of plastic bags because they are not
biodegradable, then why are supermarkets not encouraged to supply
alternative paper single-use bags which do not suffer from the problem?

I resent having to carry a bulky bag-for-life with me on the off-chance
that I might want to buy something. Too much of modern life requires you
to plan ahead (bag for life, buying railway tickets in advance to get best
fare, etc) instead of allowing you to be impulsive and spur-of-the-moment.

We always re-use supermarket carriers for lining rubbish bins (eg in the
kitchen, one for general landfill rubbish like packaging, and another for
food waste and vegetable peelings that can be composted) as a free
alternative to buying a roll of bin bags. Once the levy is introduced,
quite apart from having to buy a large number of bags for life, to
accommodate everything that we buy at one go, we'll have to spend even
more money buying rolls of binliner bags that we used to get for free as
single-use carrier bags.

And all because some plebs can't be arsed to throw away their carrier bags
in the bin after using them.


Impulsive/random is always bad.
You should consider all purchases before buying.
Unless of course it is something you use being sold off cheap.

On 19/12/2013 13:34, NY wrote:

I resent having to carry a bulky bag-for-life with me on the off-chance
that I might want to buy something. Too much of modern life requires you
to plan ahead (bag for life, buying railway tickets in advance to get
best fare, etc) instead of allowing you to be impulsive and
spur-of-the-moment.

You'll still be able to buy a bag for 5p for those impulse buys.

If that's too expensive, may I suggest you're not really in the
financial position to afford impulse buys?

Bill Wright wrote:
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large
box in the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog ****,
clinical waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing,
disposable nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of things.
When they are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from
much thicker plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and I
will be able to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will cost
me nothing but will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will get
onto it. The greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Bill

How is it that the US can manage to supply shoppers with free strong
paper bags which are recyclable in their waste system and we can't?

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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It's time start saving your supermarket bags.

always have

From next October they will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid
greenies.

As long as they bring back the ones that are thick enough to use as bin bags
I have no problem with that

It's if they start to charge 5p for the ones that are no damned use for
anything once you get them home that will annoy me

harryagain wrote:

I think you are a stupid ****.

That's my arguments skilfully demolished then.

Why don'tyou take a proper bag to the supermarket when shopping or don't you
have the foresight?

I prefer to have cooked meats and fish in individual bags. I buy fresh
bread which needs to be bagged. I buy fresh veg which I like to bring
home in separate bags. In the past I have put tinned stuff, etc,
straight into my own bags, but from now on I will get as many
supermarket bags as I can.

The fact that you have to store vast quantities, indicates you get far more
than you need.

I don't have to store vast quantities. Why would anyone? Anyone with too
many bags would presumably throw them in the bin. I am endeavouring to
accumulate a vast quantity so that when they are 5p each I will have
plenty to last me.


Supermarket bags are quite unsuitable for most of the uses you put them to
anyway.

In that case why would I use them?

Bill

Woody wrote:

By the way Bill, you forgot the newspapers that you put out in them for
recycling. Now there's a paradox if ever there was one.

The ******* mardy binmen carefully removed a cardboard drink container
from my recycling and threw it on the ground. Presumably it is because
it is waxed. They could just have easily have put it in the adjacent
grey bin. But no, they like to be officious ****s. That's their
Christmas tip cancelled.

Bill

"Huge" wrote in message
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On 2013-12-19, Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 06:00:57 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large
box in the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog ****,
clinical waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing,
disposable nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of things.
When they are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from
much thicker plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and I
will be able to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will cost
me nothing but will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will get
onto it. The greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Bill

In Northern Ireland we have had the 5p levy on single-usecarrier bags
(paper as well as plastic) since April this year. It seems to be working
well.

Define "working well". In Eire, which has had the levy for several years,
consumption of bags has risen, not fallen.

what, risen since it fell back hugely (about 95% apparently) after they
first introduced the charge or risen back above that quantity used before?
Whilst I don't know the figures I do know that the people with the vested
interest will claim the first as proof of failure of the idea. (Like that
nutter who used to post here about the Newbury by-pass did)

tim

"Max Demian" wrote in message
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"Tim+" wrote in message
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Only half agree. Without doubt, many (?most) people recycle their
plastic
bags but I walk my dogs on a beach every morning and from Easter until
the
autumn, the beach is littered with supermarket bags. Also, when I'm
running along country lanes the hedgerows and ditches are clogged with
bags. Anything that can be done to lessen this blight gets my vote.

It's perverse the way dog owners hang their bags of dog **** from
branches.

Do they really

can't say that I've ever seen it

do your parks not have those doggie-crap bins?

tim

Martin Brown wrote:

Just because the greens are in favour of something does not
automatically make it wrong.

It almost does. If you subtract the beliefs that are generally held from
the greens' beliefs what's left is almost entirely ********.

You sound like the typical paranoid right whinger.

That isn't an argument.

Bill

tim...... wrote:
doggie-crap bins?


FLED bins.

The Fleds aren't very good at putting crap in them.