Scottish TV at the expense of the English and Welsh

On 28/11/2013 09:32, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 09:23:33 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

On 28/11/2013 09:04, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 23:53:01 +0000, Michael Chare
[email protected] wrote:

On 27/11/2013 18:23, Peter Duncanson wrote:

Anyway, how could the Scots prevent the rest of us from watching any
free satellite TV they start to provide?

Copy the Irish and use a spot beam.

The Freesat spot beam can be received in Nice with a 60cm dish.

Yes, but the Irish are not using 28E for their Saorsat service

The Freesat spot beam was supposed to limit the areas outside UK where UK TV can
be received.
http://www.astra2d.com/astra2.html

Yes, but as I say, the Ka band satellite uses interference limiting, so
using a larger dish, won't necessarily help. Have a proper read of the
article I've linked.

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Mark
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In article ,
Michael Chare [email protected] wrote:

Copy the Irish and use a spot beam.

What technology would allow them to broadcast reliably to
Berwick-on-Tweed while preventing anyone in Edinburgh and Glasgow
watching?

-- Richard

Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Michael Chare [email protected] wrote:

Copy the Irish and use a spot beam.

What technology would allow them to broadcast reliably to
Berwick-on-Tweed while preventing anyone in Edinburgh and Glasgow
watching?

-- Richard

Dumfries and Carlisle?

Bill

"charles" wrote in message
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tim...... wrote:

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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On 27/11/2013 16:44, Michael Chare wrote:
I Scotland becomes a separate country how will we stop them from
benefiting from free satellite TV paid for by the English and Welsh?

The problems and anomalies surrounding TV in the proposed separation of
Scotland from the UK are a relatively minor microcosm of the enormity
of the task to create its own stand alone national infrastructure.

Mr S, hasn't even begun to think it through properly,

Neither had the slovaks.

but they spoke a different language from the Czechs.

what that got to do with it

(the myriad of other things, not the TV)



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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 11:41:59 +0000, wrote:

On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 16:44:56 +0000, Michael Chare
[email protected] wrote:

I Scotland becomes a separate country how will we stop them from
benefiting from free satellite TV paid for by the English and Welsh?

Why would the English and Welsh want to? It would be a minor item on
the list of things to be sorted out, and in reality a separated
Scotland if it set up a SBC would be showing much the same stuff
anyway with some home produced material. If that is made so dire that
the target audience needs to look south then it would be a failure
that a future Scottish government may have to subsidize production of
better programming to keep up national pride.
My personal hope is that they could take Julia "I've got to appear on
your telly every time you turn it on" bloody Bradbury, stick her on a
walk in the highlands where she gets lost and because the Scots won't
be able to afford an airforce is never found or seen again.

She's from Sheffield. What has Scotland done to deserve her.

BBC Scotland has the best gardening programme on BBC TV. Perhaps because
it is
celeb free.

BBC Gardening progs were celeb free when they started

tim

On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 13:48:18 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 12:29:30 +0000, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 13:11:14 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 11:41:59 +0000, wrote:


My personal hope is that they could take Julia "I've got to appear on
your telly every time you turn it on" bloody Bradbury, stick her on a
walk in the highlands where she gets lost and because the Scots won't
be able to afford an airforce is never found or seen again.

She's from Sheffield. What has Scotland done to deserve her.

Revenge weapon for the White Heather club.

Euugggh!


BBC Scotland has the best gardening programme on BBC TV. Perhaps because it is
celeb free.

Indeed, and like many we were worried it would get ruined when it went
got transmitted nationally *.

Ditto Rab C Nesbitt.

We shall see what the future brings.

* Which now many things can be watched/listened by various means well
out of the initial target area is becoming harder to pin down.

Beechgrove works for us, but it lacks the mind numbing soporific qualities of
Monty Don.

It was fine as it was, but now it has been networked they found it
necessary to push a 'gardening celeb' into it - C.Beardshaw.

On 28/11/2013 11:41, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 16:44:56 +0000, Michael Chare
[email protected] wrote:

I Scotland becomes a separate country how will we stop them from
benefiting from free satellite TV paid for by the English and Welsh?

Why would the English and Welsh want to?

Rights holders might not be willing to reduce their prices without a
reduction audience size.

If the BBC's income reduces they will have to make economies with the
inevitable impact on programme quality.


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Michael Chare

In message , Martin
writes
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 10:24:57 +0000 (UTC), (Richard
Tobin) wrote:

In article ,
Michael Chare [email protected] wrote:

Copy the Irish and use a spot beam.

What technology would allow them to broadcast reliably to
Berwick-on-Tweed while preventing anyone in Edinburgh and Glasgow
watching?

Annexing Berwick-on-Tweed would be easier.

They've already got form for doing that - several times.
--
Ian

In article ,
Michael Chare [email protected] wrote:

Why would the English and Welsh want to?

Rights holders might not be willing to reduce their prices without a
reduction audience size.

They're not going to be very bothered about 5 million Scots compared
with 58 million non-Scots.

The problem would be the other way round: a Scottish satellite
broadcaster would have trouble buying programs at a reasonable price
if the rest of the UK could watch them.

-- Richard

In article ,
wrote:
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 16:44:56 +0000, Michael Chare
[email protected] wrote:

I Scotland becomes a separate country how will we stop them from
benefiting from free satellite TV paid for by the English and Welsh?

Why would the English and Welsh want to? It would be a minor item on
the list of things to be sorted out, and in reality a separated Scotland
if it set up a SBC would be showing much the same stuff anyway with some
home produced material.

Would it? How can anyone know given that - as with many of the other SNP
claims - what happens would depend on them getting *agreements* with others
who may not choose to do as the SNP hope.

A couple of BBC R4 progs in the last week have had BBC spokesbods refusing
to say what ideas or plans they'd have WRT Scotland in case it became
'independent'. The idea being that any details might influence the
political process.

The snag with that is *failing* to say what it might mean for people being
able to still get what they get now *also* will influence decisions. If,
like myself, someone is concerned to be able to go on getting full access
to the BBC then any doubt erodes being willing to vote 'yes', and pushes
people toward voting 'no'.

So in this case the BBC refusing to make its position clear applies some
influence just as much as if they spoke up. By default, an encouragement to
people to vote 'no' if they want BBC output for more than just the most
popular things.

Slainte,

Jim

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