BBC Red Button HD via WinTV

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:50:04 +0100, Ar wrote:

On 18/08/13 23:14, Charles Ellson wrote:
It isn't something like your transponder list being out of date and
thus the software not searching in the right place is it ?

It's not that,

Apparently it is.

it's not being listed as "BBC Red Button HD"

No, it's listed as "8900" (and produces the description "BBC Red
Button HD") in the same numeric style as various other miscellaneous
channels.

deliberately to FTA satellite boxes. BBC / Sky trying to hide it.

It isn't hidden from my Humax receiver.

On 20/08/13 00:25, Charles Ellson wrote:
deliberately to FTA satellite boxes. BBC / Sky trying to hide it.

It isn't hidden from my Humax receiver.

It's hidden on my FTA box.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 23:20:05 +0100, J.Arthur.Rank wrote:

Hi all,

I've got a Hauppauge Freesat DVB-S2 card, which I operate under WinTV.
Unfortunately, all of the channel numbers it generates in a scan seem
to be arbitrary Freesat channels, not the ones displayed on a standard
Freesat set (i.e. 303 for this channel). Does anyone know what channel
or method I can use to get this channel to work/record under either
Hauppauge's own WinTV or, failing that, in DVB Viewer?

Surely if it is branded as a 'Freesat' receiver then it has to comply with the
'Freesat' specification, with standard channel numbers?


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"The Other Mike" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 23:20:05 +0100, J.Arthur.Rank
wrote:

Hi all,

I've got a Hauppauge Freesat DVB-S2 card, which I operate under
WinTV.
Unfortunately, all of the channel numbers it generates in a
scan seem
to be arbitrary Freesat channels, not the ones displayed on a
standard
Freesat set (i.e. 303 for this channel). Does anyone know what
channel
or method I can use to get this channel to work/record under
either
Hauppauge's own WinTV or, failing that, in DVB Viewer?

Surely if it is branded as a 'Freesat' receiver then it has to
comply with the
'Freesat' specification, with standard channel numbers?


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Same happens with mt Freeview version - it just allocates the
station numbers in the order it finds them.

On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:49:04 +0100, Ar wrote:

On 20/08/13 00:25, Charles Ellson wrote:
deliberately to FTA satellite boxes. BBC / Sky trying to hide it.

It isn't hidden from my Humax receiver.

It's hidden on my FTA box.

Are you searching for "All" or "FTA only" ? It is not uncommon for
some channel bouquets to flag FTA services as encrypted if they are
not among the services intended to be selected via the EPG rather than
by pressing a button (e.g. the red button in this case) while watching
a parent channel. There also seem to occasional differences in the way
that encrypted channels are detected and treated by various boxes;
IIRC some won't touch anything with the encryption flag set.

On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:39:30 +0100, "Woody"
wrote:

"The Other Mike" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 23:20:05 +0100, J.Arthur.Rank
wrote:

Hi all,

I've got a Hauppauge Freesat DVB-S2 card, which I operate under
WinTV.
Unfortunately, all of the channel numbers it generates in a
scan seem
to be arbitrary Freesat channels, not the ones displayed on a
standard
Freesat set (i.e. 303 for this channel). Does anyone know what
channel
or method I can use to get this channel to work/record under
either
Hauppauge's own WinTV or, failing that, in DVB Viewer?

Surely if it is branded as a 'Freesat' receiver then it has to
comply with the
'Freesat' specification, with standard channel numbers?


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Same happens with mt Freeview version - it just allocates the
station numbers in the order it finds them.

Some older FreeView boxes (like my ancient Thomson) seem to be
incapable of correctly allocating some of the standard channel numbers
while correctly and consistently allocating others.

On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:24:59 +0100, The Other Mike
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 23:20:05 +0100, J.Arthur.Rank wrote:

Hi all,

I've got a Hauppauge Freesat DVB-S2 card, which I operate under WinTV.
Unfortunately, all of the channel numbers it generates in a scan seem
to be arbitrary Freesat channels, not the ones displayed on a standard
Freesat set (i.e. 303 for this channel). Does anyone know what channel
or method I can use to get this channel to work/record under either
Hauppauge's own WinTV or, failing that, in DVB Viewer?

Surely if it is branded as a 'Freesat' receiver then it has to comply with the
'Freesat' specification, with standard channel numbers?

No. it's a DVB-S2 receiver and can be pointed at any appropriate
satellite. Freesat is just a marketing gimmick specific to the UK.

On 20/08/2013 21:12, J.Arthur.Rank wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:24:59 +0100, The Other Mike
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 23:20:05 +0100, J.Arthur.Rank wrote:

Hi all,

I've got a Hauppauge Freesat DVB-S2 card, which I operate under WinTV.
Unfortunately, all of the channel numbers it generates in a scan seem
to be arbitrary Freesat channels, not the ones displayed on a standard
Freesat set (i.e. 303 for this channel). Does anyone know what channel
or method I can use to get this channel to work/record under either
Hauppauge's own WinTV or, failing that, in DVB Viewer?

Surely if it is branded as a 'Freesat' receiver then it has to comply with the
'Freesat' specification, with standard channel numbers?

No. it's a DVB-S2 receiver and can be pointed at any appropriate
satellite. Freesat is just a marketing gimmick specific to the UK.

Yes, and if the OP wants the BBC Red Button HD service he just needs to
scan the appropriate transponder. Details on en.KingofSat.net and
similar websites. In DVBViewer you might need to update the satellite
transponder list.


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Michael Chare

On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:12:29 +0100, J.Arthur.Rank wrote:

On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:24:59 +0100, The Other Mike
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 23:20:05 +0100, J.Arthur.Rank wrote:

Hi all,

I've got a Hauppauge Freesat DVB-S2 card, which I operate under WinTV.
Unfortunately, all of the channel numbers it generates in a scan seem
to be arbitrary Freesat channels, not the ones displayed on a standard
Freesat set (i.e. 303 for this channel). Does anyone know what channel
or method I can use to get this channel to work/record under either
Hauppauge's own WinTV or, failing that, in DVB Viewer?

Surely if it is branded as a 'Freesat' receiver then it has to comply with the
'Freesat' specification, with standard channel numbers?

No. it's a DVB-S2 receiver and can be pointed at any appropriate
satellite. Freesat is just a marketing gimmick specific to the UK.


So your original posting that said "I've got a Hauppauge ****FREESAT**** DVB-S2
card" wasn't strictly correct.

If you wish to change the channels numbers then maybe you ought to be looking at
editing the appropriate registry entries.


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