Who is responsible for 101?

It looks like another government mess-up.

I live in North Yorks but had need to contact NY Police a few
days ago whilst in Sheffield. The 0845 number is no longer
available so dialled 101 option 1 for 'other forces.' The options
were Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Humberside, West Yorkshire and
Greater Manchester. North Yorks was not available even though it
does have a boundary with South Yorks.

When I got home I tried the same with North Yorks. Here the
options were West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire (!) Humberside,
Cleveland, Durham, and Lancashire. No mention of Cummbria with
which North Yorks has a significant boundary - much graeter than
that with South Yorks.

Obviously those who 'designed' these options had no technical
understanding that a mobile can be in one county but connected by
a mast in another. Consistency? Pah!

(Yes I know its TOT with uk.t.dtv but I want Bill to have a
chance to comment!)



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Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

Are you saying that the Police in one county have no way to talk to another?
That will please the villains. as for fobile Moans, well I never did trust
those things as they charge for free numbers.

Brian

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"Woody" wrote in message
...
It looks like another government mess-up.

I live in North Yorks but had need to contact NY Police a few days ago
whilst in Sheffield. The 0845 number is no longer available so dialled 101
option 1 for 'other forces.' The options were Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire,
Humberside, West Yorkshire and Greater Manchester. North Yorks was not
available even though it does have a boundary with South Yorks.

When I got home I tried the same with North Yorks. Here the options were
West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire (!) Humberside, Cleveland, Durham, and
Lancashire. No mention of Cummbria with which North Yorks has a
significant boundary - much graeter than that with South Yorks.

Obviously those who 'designed' these options had no technical
understanding that a mobile can be in one county but connected by a mast
in another. Consistency? Pah!

(Yes I know its TOT with uk.t.dtv but I want Bill to have a chance to
comment!)



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Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

Brian Gaff wrote:
Are you saying that the Police in one county have no way to talk to another?

It's not a national police force, so they can sometimes choose to be
deliberately 'territorial' about incidents in border areas.

Brian Gaff wrote:

as for fobile Moans, well I never did trust
those things as they charge for free numbers.

0800 used to be free on Orange in the Snook days, supposedly OFCOM is
looking into forcing them to be free again (a few 0800 numbers like
childline are already I think).

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 09:03:48 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

Are you saying that the Police in one county have no way to talk to
another?
That will please the villains. as for fobile Moans, well I never did
trust those things as they charge for free numbers.

Still free on GiffGaff.



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On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 09:03:48 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Are you saying that the Police in one county have no way to talk to another?
That will please the villains. as for fobile Moans, well I never did trust
those things as they charge for free numbers.

It used to be common practice to commit your crimes in another area to
avoid detection. I think nowadays the Police do talk to each other
occasionally.

When the 101 number was recently introduced I had cause to call it via
a VOIP system. Needless to say it didn't work at all. I tried all
the old numbers, which were still active, but just told me to call
101!
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(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

Woody wrote:
It looks like another government mess-up.

I live in North Yorks but had need to contact NY Police a few
days ago whilst in Sheffield. The 0845 number is no longer
available so dialled 101 option 1 for 'other forces.' The options
were Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Humberside, West Yorkshire and
Greater Manchester. North Yorks was not available even though it
does have a boundary with South Yorks.

When I got home I tried the same with North Yorks. Here the
options were West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire (!) Humberside,
Cleveland, Durham, and Lancashire. No mention of Cummbria with
which North Yorks has a significant boundary - much graeter than
that with South Yorks.

Obviously those who 'designed' these options had no technical
understanding that a mobile can be in one county but connected by
a mast in another. Consistency? Pah!

(Yes I know its TOT with uk.t.dtv but I want Bill to have a
chance to comment!)

My feeling (nothing more than that) is that the problem is less now than
it was. That could be because there's a greater density of masts, or
because the modern network doesn't allow phones to talk to a base that's
a long way away. In the early days of mobiles all sorts of daft things
used to happen. I once dialled 999 from Doncaster town centre and was
put though to Lincoln police.

The problem you report sounds like something that could be easily solved
though, by the application of some common sense and geographical knowledge.

Bill

In message , Brian Gaff
writes
Moans, well I never did trust
those things as they charge for free numbers.

Giff Gaff doesn't charge for free numbers.

I can send you a free SIM if you like, (and get £5 credit on my bill if
you sign up.

--
Simon

12) The Second Rule of Expectations
An EXPECTATION is a Premeditated resentment.

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:05:34 +0100, "Woody"
wrote:

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(Yes I know its TOT with uk.t.dtv but I want Bill to have a
chance to comment!)

My first thought when I saw the subject line was, "The last I heard,
it was Frank Skinner" (keeping it vaguely _ON_ Topic), followed by, "I
suppose it depends on who's running the the introductory course.".
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Regards, J B Good

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:05:34 +0100, Woody wrote:

It looks like another government mess-up.

I live in North Yorks but had need to contact NY Police a few
days ago whilst in Sheffield. The 0845 number is no longer
available so dialled 101 option 1 for 'other forces.' The options
were Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Humberside, West Yorkshire and
Greater Manchester. North Yorks was not available even though it
does have a boundary with South Yorks.

When I got home I tried the same with North Yorks. Here the
options were West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire (!) Humberside,
Cleveland, Durham, and Lancashire. No mention of Cummbria with
which North Yorks has a significant boundary - much graeter than
that with South Yorks.

Obviously those who 'designed' these options had no technical
understanding that a mobile can be in one county but connected by
a mast in another. Consistency? Pah!

(Yes I know its TOT with uk.t.dtv but I want Bill to have a
chance to comment!)

http://www.police.uk/alternative-non-emergency-numbers