Humax Freetime PVR doesn't time-shift programmes???

In message , "postmaster @ stejonda"
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I'll ask when SWMBO awakes but since she's the problem

Oooops, wrote what I really think. Lol quietly.

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Simon

12) The Second Rule of Expectations
An EXPECTATION is a Premeditated resentment.

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:08:10 +0100, "postmaster @ stejonda"
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In message , dave
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On 22/07/13 20:17, Another John wrote:

:-( -- nobody came along yet!

I'd be interested in an authoritative answer, as we've just acquired a
Humax (see my question re "antenna power on a Humax PVR?"

John

Not authoritative, though I am not unacquainted with the technicalities.

The 'accurate recording' feature of PVRs is driven by the 'now and
next' data in the EPG. When Accurate Recording is enabled,

Where is this in the Humax menus? I have not been able to find it,
(perhaps I am getting too old), on the 1010S. I'm getting a 1000S today
for my use, (no need for Wi-Fi) so I'll take a look on that.


By default Accurate Recording is automatically enabled for a particular
programme by setting it to be recorded by highlighting it in the EPG and
pressing OK.

However that only works if the menu options
SettingsPreferencesRecording Start Padding Time and End Padding Time
are set to Off (the default status)

Accurate Recording is not enabled if you set up a recording by using the
New Reservation dialog in the Schedule screen. With that you select the
Channel, Date, Start Time, End Time, etc. and the recording will start
and finish at those times without any automatic adjustment for the
actual time of the programme.

There is nothing displayed on the Schedule screen to say whether a
reservation is for accurate recording or not.


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In message , Peter Duncanson
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:08:10 +0100, "postmaster @ stejonda"
wrote:
In message , dave
writes
On 22/07/13 20:17, Another John wrote:

:-( -- nobody came along yet!

I'd be interested in an authoritative answer, as we've just acquired a
Humax (see my question re "antenna power on a Humax PVR?"

John

Not authoritative, though I am not unacquainted with the technicalities.

The 'accurate recording' feature of PVRs is driven by the 'now and
next' data in the EPG. When Accurate Recording is enabled,

Where is this in the Humax menus? I have not been able to find it,
(perhaps I am getting too old), on the 1010S. I'm getting a 1000S today
for my use, (no need for Wi-Fi) so I'll take a look on that.

Aside: why did they move the Home button between the 1000 & 1010???

By default Accurate Recording is automatically enabled for a particular
programme by setting it to be recorded by highlighting it in the EPG and
pressing OK.

However that only works if the menu options
SettingsPreferencesRecording Start Padding Time and End Padding Time
are set to Off (the default status)

The only options here are a number of minutes or Auto which seems to be
the default. Both are set to Auto. Would Recording Buffer being set to
On mess with it? On is the default.

Accurate Recording is not enabled if you set up a recording by using the
New Reservation dialog in the Schedule screen. With that you select the
Channel, Date, Start Time, End Time, etc. and the recording will start
and finish at those times without any automatic adjustment for the
actual time of the programme.

We don't do that.


There is nothing displayed on the Schedule screen to say whether a
reservation is for accurate recording or not.

:-( but we can't have everything.

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Simon

12) The Second Rule of Expectations
An EXPECTATION is a Premeditated resentment.

On 22/07/2013 20:47, dave wrote:
On 22/07/13 20:17, Another John wrote:

:-( -- nobody came along yet!

I'd be interested in an authoritative answer, as we've just acquired a
Humax (see my question re "antenna power on a Humax PVR?"

John

Not authoritative, though I am not unacquainted with the technicalities.

The 'accurate recording' feature of PVRs is driven by the 'now and next'
data in the EPG. When Accurate Recording is enabled, the PVR starts
recording when the selected programme changes from 'next' to 'now'. For
pre-recorded programmes getting this right is hardly rocket science;
though the BBC channels generally do a very good job, ITV are so-so and
the others are a bit hit-and-miss.

Almost! My information, published in a reply on Usenet many moons ago
came virtually from the horse's mouth as it were. These words are my
interpretation. I'll try to find the "official" explanation. I don't
claim this is how it happens now. But I see no reason for it being
changed. It's probably in the ETSI spec.

There is a flag in the system, let's call it the "Running Status Flag"
or RSF for short. This effectively toggles when a programme starts.
And conversely toggles the other way when it ends. This is set by the
broadcaster. My information, at the time, was that, for example, the
BBC would toggle it at the advert - sorry programme trail - before the
start of the programme, and itv similarly at an ad or two before. This
both broadcasters insist is not just to get an advert in, but to give a
safe time period for a PVR to react. Most only check the datastream for
this RSF change every 10 seconds.

The early Humax 9200 software designers only looked for this flag
change. If it doesn't happen nor did the recording. Sony, for example,
also used the N & N programme start and end times as a fail safe. Humax
have now made their software more robust.

Richard