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Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was so
loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from scientists I'd
never heard of at all.
Brian

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Is the message at last getting through?
http://tinyurl.com/osakepn
Derek

On 19/07/2013 08:43, Brian Gaff wrote:
Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was so
loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from scientists I'd
never heard of at all.
Brian

Its not just a TV problem as most Movies are just as bad.
British stage actors used to have voices that carried without the need
of electronics. We went to see Dame Judy in a play and sitting in the
rear of the circle it was a struggle to hear her.
Derek

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On 19/07/2013 08:43, Brian Gaff wrote:
Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was
so
loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from scientists
I'd
never heard of at all.
Brian

Its not just a TV problem as most Movies are just as bad.
British stage actors used to have voices that carried without the need of
electronics. We went to see Dame Judy in a play and sitting in the rear of
the circle it was a struggle to hear her.

I'd rather have actors and actresses speaking in normal (but audible,
intelligible) voices than have them straining to project their voices to the
back of a theatre without the aid of amplification. A projected voice never
sounds natural.

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Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was
so loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from
scientists I'd never heard of at all. Brian

In contrast, some of the recent 'Tony Robinson presented' items on C4 in
recent years have all the voiceovers dynamically auto-level compressed to
the max, so seem like 'shouting' all the time he does them. As with the
above example, I have to assume no-one producing them ever bothers to
listen to the result.

Slainte,

Jim

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NY wrote:
I'd rather have actors and actresses speaking in normal (but audible,
intelligible) voices than have them straining to project their voices to
the back of a theatre without the aid of amplification. A projected
voice never sounds natural.

You want things in a theatre to be natural? ;-)

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Two different things. You can drown out any voice with too loud music and
or effects. Mumbling can be difficult to understand on its own.

It's definitely not helped by pretty well all TV drama these days using
personal mics buried beneath layers of ordinary clothing. Nothing much you
can do about poorly recorded sound. And than add in the poor sound systems
on most tellies.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

You want things in a theatre to be natural? ;-)

I agree with that point. Whenever I go to the theatre I am struck by
how unnatural all the acting is. In my experience they *always*
project their voices, and they always make larger-than-life movements.
It has to be that way - you would never normally observe or interact
with people a hundred feet or more away.

That's why I dislike the theat the actors don't act, they perform.
Television and film are far more intimate. Sophie Grabol (The Killing)
does such subtle, and superb, face acting that the only way to see it
is when her face fills the whole screen. Michael Kitchen (Foyle's War)
is another masterful TV actor in much the same way. I love that kind
of acting. I haven't seen Grabol or Kitchen in a theatre, but I'm sure
both must "enlarge" their acting into full-blown performances.
Inevitably this makes it less natural.

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Steve Thackery wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

You want things in a theatre to be natural? ;-)

I agree with that point. Whenever I go to the theatre I am struck by
how unnatural all the acting is. In my experience they *always*
project their voices, and they always make larger-than-life movements.
It has to be that way - you would never normally observe or interact
with people a hundred feet or more away.

Quite. It's how it has always been.

That's why I dislike the theat the actors don't act, they perform.
Television and film are far more intimate.

I can enjoy both sorts.

Sophie Grabol (The Killing)
does such subtle, and superb, face acting that the only way to see it
is when her face fills the whole screen. Michael Kitchen (Foyle's War)
is another masterful TV actor in much the same way. I love that kind
of acting. I haven't seen Grabol or Kitchen in a theatre, but I'm sure
both must "enlarge" their acting into full-blown performances.
Inevitably this makes it less natural.

Remember going to see French and Saunders in a play wot they wrote. They
both mumbled to the point none of our (youngish) group could hear much of
what they said. So most of us simply slept through it, and demanded our
money back afterwards. Got it too.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On 19/07/2013 08:43, Brian Gaff wrote:
Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was so
loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from scientists I'd
never heard of at all.
Brian




maybe you have (a) not very good speakers in your tv
or
(b) not very good ears.

just a thought

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