550-600MHz awarded to TV

http://advanced-television.com/2013/...-for-hd-boost/

The idea of a gap in the middle of the UHF TV band always seemed like
a bad idea to me.

I get the impression when the top of UHF is snipped further in 2017 in
the 700-790MHz region that that this middle allocation might be
permanent.

Hmm, well, the whole thing kind of moving the goal posts in the middle of
developing a system seems odd. Most people would have imagined this was a
done deal then noises off started telling us Freeview would be buried in
favour of the next generation of obile devices.
All very strange.

Brian

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"viewer" wrote in message
...
http://advanced-television.com/2013/...-for-hd-boost/

The idea of a gap in the middle of the UHF TV band always seemed like
a bad idea to me.

I get the impression when the top of UHF is snipped further in 2017 in
the 700-790MHz region that that this middle allocation might be
permanent.

"viewer" wrote in message
...

http://advanced-television.com/2013/...-for-hd-boost/

The idea of a gap in the middle of the UHF TV band always seemed like
a bad idea to me.

I get the impression when the top of UHF is snipped further in 2017 in
the 700-790MHz region that that this middle allocation might be
permanent.

*******

Will this mean we put our present TV sets in rubbish bin and buy another
again?
Regards
David

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:10:33 +0100, "David" wrote:



"viewer" wrote in message
.. .

http://advanced-television.com/2013/...-for-hd-boost/

The idea of a gap in the middle of the UHF TV band always seemed like
a bad idea to me.

I get the impression when the top of UHF is snipped further in 2017 in
the 700-790MHz region that that this middle allocation might be
permanent.

*******

Will this mean we put our present TV sets in rubbish bin and buy another
again?

Only if you want to see the new HD channels, and you don't have a T2
compatible TV set or STB.
Remember that these new channels are only temporary, until 2018. If
you want to be sure of continued reception then Freesat (or cable!) is
the way to go.

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:46:42 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Hmm, well, the whole thing kind of moving the goal posts in the middle of
developing a system seems odd. Most people would have imagined this was a
done deal then noises off started telling us Freeview would be buried in
favour of the next generation of obile devices.
All very strange.

Not really. It makes good use of this bit of spectrum for a few years,
and drives the sale of HD sets. The Chinese factories will be very
glad for the business.

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Hmm, well, the whole thing kind of moving the goal posts in the middle
of developing a system seems odd. Most people would have imagined this was
a done deal then noises off started telling us Freeview would be buried in
favour of the next generation of obile devices.

When I heard that analogue would be phased out in favour of digital, I
naively thought that the total spectrum allocated to TV (Channels 21-68)
would remain untouched and that each transmitter would keep (more or less)
its existing allocation of UHF frequencies.

Then it came out that there was a hidden agenda for moving to digital: that
the whole country could be squeezed into a smaller number of UHF channels
because digital is more tolerance of adjacent and co-channel interference
from outside the region.

Now we're seeing changes, either of TV channels within multiplexes or else
of UHF channels, ever more often. It's tedious for technically-savvy people
like me but it must be a nightmare for The Public who are forever having to
retune their TV, video recorder etc.

I'm a firm believer in the policy of making one great big horrendous change
and then keeping things cast in stone after than, rather than making lots of
incremental (and just as painful) changes.

One interesting thing: when Blighty closed down and Drama started a few days
ago on the same digital channel, I noticed that it wasn't necessary to
retune, so evidently they only changed the channel name (which was
propagated to EPGs and channel lists) and nothing else like low-level
channel IDs. If only all changes were as painless as that!

I wonder if at some stage in the future there will ever be proposals to
change to a totally new method of encoding (eg H264 MP4 rather than MPEG 2
for SD) to use the muxes more efficiently. That really *would* **** people
off...

lid wrote:

Only if you want to see the new HD channels, and you don't have a T2
compatible TV set or STB.
Remember that these new channels are only temporary, until 2018. If
you want to be sure of continued reception then Freesat (or cable!) is
the way to go.

David, the plan is that these channels will allow those with T2 sets or
boxes to get more HD channels. By 2018 they will be used to HD, and SD
will look terrible to them. It will then be announced that terrestrial
HD is to end. The idea here is to get everyone onto satellite. The
ultimate aim is to close terrestrial TV completely.
See
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...trial%20tv.jpg

Bill

In message , Bill Wright
writes
wrote:

Only if you want to see the new HD channels, and you don't have a T2
compatible TV set or STB.
Remember that these new channels are only temporary, until 2018. If
you want to be sure of continued reception then Freesat (or cable!) is
the way to go.

David, the plan is that these channels will allow those with T2 sets or
boxes to get more HD channels. By 2018 they will be used to HD, and SD
will look terrible to them. It will then be announced that terrestrial
HD is to end. The idea here is to get everyone onto satellite. The
ultimate aim is to close terrestrial TV completely.
See
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nd%20of%20terr
estrial%20tv.jpg

Bill

I thought the idea was to get everyone and everything onto phones.
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Ian

"Ian" wrote in message
...
I thought the idea was to get everyone and everything onto phones.

Hence Microsoft's tablet-orientated changes in Windows 8 :-)

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:14:51 +0100, Ian wrote:

In message , Bill Wright
writes
wrote:

Only if you want to see the new HD channels, and you don't have a T2
compatible TV set or STB.
Remember that these new channels are only temporary, until 2018. If
you want to be sure of continued reception then Freesat (or cable!) is
the way to go.

David, the plan is that these channels will allow those with T2 sets or
boxes to get more HD channels. By 2018 they will be used to HD, and SD
will look terrible to them. It will then be announced that terrestrial
HD is to end. The idea here is to get everyone onto satellite. The
ultimate aim is to close terrestrial TV completely.
See
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nd%20of%20terr
estrial%20tv.jpg

Bill

I thought the idea was to get everyone and everything onto phones.

Satellite phones?


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