TOT fan oven

We have a Neff double fan oven. Until recently we had never used the
fan mode. But a few months ago the top element of the main oven failed
and to replace it you have to take the oven out of the housing and do
it from the back!

As it takes a week to heat up on only the lower element, we switched
to fan mode. At least that element was a) new as in never used, and b)
replaceable from the front if it did fail.

All went well until a week ago when the fan failed to spin up.
Flicking the blades with a bit of plastic through the grill it will
s-l-o-w-l-y spin up to speed, taking maybe ten seconds or so and then
it is quite happy at full belt until next time.

Is the fan on the way out or would it be something else?

TIA
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Dave Saville

Probably suffering from the gunged up bearinggs and innards issue. Most of
these though seem to be imune to being taken apart in a way which enables
reassembly. grin.
Brian

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"Dave Saville" wrote in message
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We have a Neff double fan oven. Until recently we had never used the
fan mode. But a few months ago the top element of the main oven failed
and to replace it you have to take the oven out of the housing and do
it from the back!

As it takes a week to heat up on only the lower element, we switched
to fan mode. At least that element was a) new as in never used, and b)
replaceable from the front if it did fail.

All went well until a week ago when the fan failed to spin up.
Flicking the blades with a bit of plastic through the grill it will
s-l-o-w-l-y spin up to speed, taking maybe ten seconds or so and then
it is quite happy at full belt until next time.

Is the fan on the way out or would it be something else?

TIA
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Regards
Dave Saville

"Dave Saville" wrote:
We have a Neff double fan oven. Until recently we had never used the
fan mode. But a few months ago the top element of the main oven failed
and to replace it you have to take the oven out of the housing and do
it from the back!

As it takes a week to heat up on only the lower element, we switched
to fan mode. At least that element was a) new as in never used, and b)
replaceable from the front if it did fail.

All went well until a week ago when the fan failed to spin up.
Flicking the blades with a bit of plastic through the grill it will
s-l-o-w-l-y spin up to speed, taking maybe ten seconds or so and then
it is quite happy at full belt until next time.

Is the fan on the way out or would it be something else?

TIA

I'm curious as to why you own a fan oven but don't want to use the fan most
of the time. I thought the top elements in ovens like yours was for
grilling.

I suspect the motor is gunged up and suffering from underuse. You might
get a bit more life out of it by cleaning and oiling it but a new motor is
probably on the cards.

Tim

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Dave Saville wrote:

All went well until a week ago when the fan failed to spin up.
Flicking the blades with a bit of plastic through the grill it will
s-l-o-w-l-y spin up to speed, taking maybe ten seconds or so and then
it is quite happy at full belt until next time.

What if the oven is already hot - does it spin up immediately?

-- Richard

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Tim+ wrote:
I'm curious as to why you own a fan oven but don't want to use the fan
most of the time. I thought the top elements in ovens like yours was
for grilling.

I've got a Neff double oven and you don't get the option not to use the
fan. Only the grille element in the top oven doesn't run it.

Can't see why you'd not want the fan?

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"Dave Saville" wrote in message
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We have a Neff double fan oven. Until recently we had never used the
fan mode. But a few months ago the top element of the main oven failed
and to replace it you have to take the oven out of the housing and do
it from the back!

As it takes a week to heat up on only the lower element, we switched
to fan mode. At least that element was a) new as in never used, and b)
replaceable from the front if it did fail.

All went well until a week ago when the fan failed to spin up.
Flicking the blades with a bit of plastic through the grill it will
s-l-o-w-l-y spin up to speed, taking maybe ten seconds or so and then
it is quite happy at full belt until next time.

Is the fan on the way out or would it be something else?

TIA
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Regards
Dave Saville


We have a Creda - the fan works fine but all the time. The very TotR one
had side elements and a fan, but seemed a waste of money.

Dave Saville wrote (apparently) in uk.tech.digital-tv on Thu 11 Jul 2013
09:50:01:

We have a Neff double fan oven. Until recently we had never used the
fan mode. But a few months ago the top element of the main oven failed
and to replace it you have to take the oven out of the housing and do
it from the back!

As it takes a week to heat up on only the lower element, we switched
to fan mode. At least that element was a) new as in never used, and b)
replaceable from the front if it did fail.

All went well until a week ago when the fan failed to spin up.
Flicking the blades with a bit of plastic through the grill it will
s-l-o-w-l-y spin up to speed, taking maybe ten seconds or so and then
it is quite happy at full belt until next time.

Is the fan on the way out or would it be something else?

TIA

Working with ventilation units with motors fitted, we have a similar problem
if a capacitor has failed and the motor is not running at its full rated
voltage, i.e. through a transformer. Give it a prod and it will start going
again. If it's not turning, it may be oscillating very slowly and getting
quite warm (not turning enough to get to the opposite pole of the magnet and
spin up itself), but in an oven I suspect that might be difficult to detect.

Just a thought. Tends to happen after power cuts or surges as the capacitors
in the units usually affected are only rated to 250 V. And are generally over
10 years old now.
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ernal-september.org,
Tim+ wrote:
I'm curious as to why you own a fan oven but don't want to use the fan
most of the time. I thought the top elements in ovens like yours was
for grilling.

I've got a Neff double oven and you don't get the option not to use the
fan. Only the grille element in the top oven doesn't run it.

Can't see why you'd not want the fan?

SWMBO here insists on running the oven at the same temperature
regardless of whether the fan is on. Ergo I suggested that she never use
the fan.

--
Simon

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On 12/07/2013 08:59, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 06:22:29 +0100, "postmaster @ stejonda"
wrote:

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article

ernal-september.org,
Tim+ wrote:
I'm curious as to why you own a fan oven but don't want to use the fan
most of the time. I thought the top elements in ovens like yours was
for grilling.

I've got a Neff double oven and you don't get the option not to use the
fan. Only the grille element in the top oven doesn't run it.

Can't see why you'd not want the fan?

SWMBO here insists on running the oven at the same temperature
regardless of whether the fan is on. Ergo I suggested that she never use
the fan.

The fan is intended to make the whole oven have the same temperature,
otherwise there are cold and hot spots. Better explain to Ergo and
SWMBO that you have been a very silly boy :-)

And, fan oven temperatures required for most recipes are generally 10
degrees less than for a conventional oven.

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David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

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postmaster @ stejonda wrote:
SWMBO here insists on running the oven at the same temperature
regardless of whether the fan is on. Ergo I suggested that she never use
the fan.

Perhaps she reduces the cooking time but doesn't tell you? In any case,
the fan makes it warm up quicker if she waits for such things.

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