Soundbars - what, you want sound with your TV?

Feeling very "grumpy old man" as I look at possible new TVs and things
like...

Save £50 when bought with Panasonic Soundbar

....on websites. Apparently manufacturers are now completely happy to admit
that the sound from their TVs is so crap that you need to buy a separate
speaker system.

Paul DS.

Oh I see well, if you think about it, most laptops have crap sound as the
case is so small I suspect this is the issue with tvs. When I wasy ounger
some tvs did have good sound but it was generally the top end models. I just
don't understand why they do not sell speakers that plug in on top end
models.

Brian

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"Paul D Smith" wrote in message
...
Feeling very "grumpy old man" as I look at possible new TVs and things
like...

Save £50 when bought with Panasonic Soundbar

...on websites. Apparently manufacturers are now completely happy to
admit that the sound from their TVs is so crap that you need to buy a
separate speaker system.

Paul DS.

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message ...

Oh I see well, if you think about it, most laptops have crap sound as the
case is so small I suspect this is the issue with tvs. When I wasy ounger
some tvs did have good sound but it was generally the top end models. I just
don't understand why they do not sell speakers that plug in on top end
models.

Brian
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They sort of do sell plug in speakers - but they plug in via a digital input
typically via an amplifier. Personally I want either "OK sound from a TV"
or "full 7.1 surround for my Bluray films". The problem is that all TVs do
these days seems to be "tinny sound with rattle at various frequencies".

As to laptops, I'm old school and I use them to crunch numbers, surf the
web, write documents which they do well. Watching movies in a "nice add on"
but it's not their primary purpose - but of course that is precisely what a
TV is supposed to be for.

Paul DS

"Paul D Smith" wrote in message
...
Feeling very "grumpy old man" as I look at possible new TVs and things
like...

Save £50 when bought with Panasonic Soundbar

...on websites. Apparently manufacturers are now completely happy to
admit that the sound from their TVs is so crap that you need to buy a
separate speaker system.

Paul DS.

You generally need a nice voluminous box for decent sound.

This is not achievable with a flat screen telly, laptop, tablet or smart
phone, so you either have to use external speakers [and often amp] or
headphones.

"admit" suggests they are trying to cheat you, but they are not.

Feeling very "grumpy old man" as I look at possible new TVs and things
like...

Save £50 when bought with Panasonic Soundbar

...on websites. Apparently manufacturers are now completely happy to
admit that the sound from their TVs is so crap that you need to buy a
separate speaker system.

Paul DS.

You generally need a nice voluminous box for decent sound.

This is not achievable with a flat screen telly, laptop, tablet or smart
phone, so you either have to use external speakers [and often amp] or
headphones.

"admit" suggests they are trying to cheat you, but they are not.
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Playing devil's advocate, how soon before they offer to sell me a decent
video monitor to go with my TV? For me, decent sound and vision go together
and if that means that, say, their "TV" has to contain no speakers and come
with external speakers (lightbulb - that's probably what Brian Gaff was
suggesting) then so be it.

But producing something which is so crap that they then try to sell me the
speakers that should have come with the TV in the first place is really
taking the mickey.

Paul DS.

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Brian Gaff wrote:
Oh I see well, if you think about it, most laptops have crap sound as
the case is so small I suspect this is the issue with tvs.

A laptop is designed to be portable. Large screen TVs not.

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In article ,
Paul D Smith wrote:
But producing something which is so crap that they then try to sell me
the speakers that should have come with the TV in the first place is
really taking the mickey.

It all down to fashion. A TV which is all screen seems to be what the
public want and buy in the showroom. Finding out later the sound is crap
doesn't seem to bother them.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Paul D Smith wrote:
But producing something which is so crap that they then try to sell me
the speakers that should have come with the TV in the first place is
really taking the mickey.

It all down to fashion. A TV which is all screen seems to be what the
public want and buy in the showroom. Finding out later the sound is crap
doesn't seem to bother them.

It's not always the cheap tellies which have the worst sound. OK my little
14" portable telly with its 2" speaker was never going to have good sound,
and I usually listened on headphones through my amplifier, taking a phono
feed from the VCR.

But the worst sound I've heard was from an expensive B&O telly back in the
80s. It had a good range of frequencies, but there was horrendous distortion
and sibilance on high-frequencies in dialogue: some female newsreaders'
voices would set my nerves jangling.

On 23/04/2013 13:29, Paul D Smith wrote:
Feeling very "grumpy old man" as I look at possible new TVs and things
like...

Save £50 when bought with Panasonic Soundbar

...on websites. Apparently manufacturers are now completely happy to
admit that the sound from their TVs is so crap that you need to buy a
separate speaker system.

Paul DS.



it's a side effect of people wanting thin tvs.
if fat tvs with proper speakers were still flying off the shelf they
would still make them.

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Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

On 23/04/2013 13:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
Oh I see well, if you think about it, most laptops have crap sound as the
case is so small I suspect this is the issue with tvs. When I wasy ounger
some tvs did have good sound but it was generally the top end models. I just
don't understand why they do not sell speakers that plug in on top end
models.

Brian



because anyone who would want to buy them, would buy a proper amp and
speakers instead.

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Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.