Freeview links to the Internet

Mike O'Sullivan wrote:
On 02/03/2013 09:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
Oh I'm not surprised. There was i think a programme about this sort of
thing
a few years ago from the USA. It all started there apparently.
Is it me or are all semi religeous radio and tv stations just a little
creepy?

All religions are a little creepy, at best.

Mind you......

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/feb/12/lightning-vatican-peter-basilica-video



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Mark Carver wrote:


Mind you......

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/feb/12/lightning-vatican-peter-basilica-video

Where've you been all week Mr Carver? Or was it a case of nowt to say,
so saying nowt (uncommon on newsgroups I know)?

Bill

Bill Wright wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:


Mind you......

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/feb/12/lightning-vatican-peter-basilica-video


Where've you been all week Mr Carver? Or was it a case of nowt to say,
so saying nowt (uncommon on newsgroups I know)?

Ha, no, I've been in Belgium on some intensive work, and by the time
I sat down down with a glass or two of 'multi-alcoholic-unit' local
Belgian beer, I was too tired and emotional to contribute anything sensible in
here !


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On 02/03/2013 11:27, Mark Carver wrote:
Mike O'Sullivan wrote:
On 02/03/2013 09:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
Oh I'm not surprised. There was i think a programme about this sort
of thing
a few years ago from the USA. It all started there apparently.
Is it me or are all semi religeous radio and tv stations just a
little
creepy?

All religions are a little creepy, at best.

Mind you......

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/feb/12/lightning-vatican-peter-basilica-video
As creepy s a Scottish Cardinal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21649475
Derek

Some thoughts about GOD TV programming.
If you look at on Freeview you get the UK stream.
If you look at it via the internet you'll see that there are USA,UK,ASIA,OZ and lots more steams, all running in parallel.
The odd thing is that the material, videos of events & lectures, is rotated around the various streams. So yesterday's UK programmes are tomorrow's USA features.

More interesting is that they have material from very creepy "preachers" who have been utterly discredited elsewhere. Very oddly, they have a common theme of support for Israel even to the point of supporting efforts by the Israeli authorities in their plans to evict Arabs so as to plant forests! They appear to have studios in Jerusalem.

In summary I think it reasonable to assume that this is a money machine which streams religious videos on the basis of their dramatic quality often with conflicting messages so as to attract the attention of the weak minded, then beg for money.

And the Israeli angle: Is this a front organisation that is directing money into Israel, with the support of the Israeli authorities? If so, it's probably not very legal in the UK.

My OP was sent to get a clarification as to what part of Ofcom I should direct a complaint, especially about their political role in evicting Bedouin villages.

On 03/03/2013 20:22, Buddlington wrote:
Some thoughts about GOD TV programming.
If you look at on Freeview you get the UK stream.
If you look at it via the internet you'll see that there are USA,UK,ASIA,OZ and lots more steams, all running in parallel.
The odd thing is that the material, videos of events & lectures, is rotated around the various streams. So yesterday's UK programmes are tomorrow's USA features.

More interesting is that they have material from very creepy "preachers" who have been utterly discredited elsewhere. Very oddly, they have a common theme of support for Israel even to the point of supporting efforts by the Israeli authorities in their plans to evict Arabs so as to plant forests! They appear to have studios in Jerusalem.

In summary I think it reasonable to assume that this is a money machine which streams religious videos on the basis of their dramatic quality often with conflicting messages so as to attract the attention of the weak minded, then beg for money.

And the Israeli angle: Is this a front organisation that is directing money into Israel, with the support of the Israeli authorities? If so, it's probably not very legal in the UK.

My OP was sent to get a clarification as to what part of Ofcom I should direct a complaint, especially about their political role in evicting Bedouin villages.



you'd need to know where in europe it's streamed from - if it's legal in
that country, ofcom can't really do anything.

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Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

It seems to be streaming from Israel.
That says two things:

1. It's harder to stop in UK & elsewhere, &
2. Who are the real beneficiaries?

BUT, does its route via Freeview give Ofcom a reason to look?

"Buddlington" wrote in message
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Some thoughts about GOD TV programming.
If you look at on Freeview you get the UK stream.
If you look at it via the internet you'll see that there are USA,UK,ASIA,OZ
and lots more steams, all running in parallel.
The odd thing is that the material, videos of events & lectures, is rotated
around the various streams. So yesterday's UK programmes are tomorrow's USA
features.

More interesting is that they have material from very creepy "preachers" who
have been utterly discredited elsewhere. Very oddly, they have a common
theme of support for Israel even to the point of supporting efforts by the
Israeli authorities in their plans to evict Arabs so as to plant forests!
They appear to have studios in Jerusalem.
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Maybe they are 'Christian Zionists' who believe that the return of the Jews
to Palestine is a prerequisite of the second coming of Christ, and all the
Jews must convert to Christianity.

So they're not really pro Jewish.

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Max Demian

Is this true?

If so, then someone could pay for a Freeview channel and then switch to the net and broadcast anything?

Why can't Ofcom stop this abuse?
Why does the Freeview Company allow it?

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:07:01 -0700 (PDT), naffer
wrote:

This ain't about religion, this is relevant to a Digital-TV Group.

I think that they only get away with this scam on Freeview because
they can exploit the fact that many new TVs are "Smart" in that they
can automatically link to users' wireless routers and the web.
I'm sure this nonsense has gone on for ages via Astra but I thought
Freeview was terrestrial and subject to some sort of UK control.

If the internet stream is selected by the TV or PVR then it's nothing
to do with Freeview. Think of it as a bit like a link on a web page,
where the web page is the software in your receiver, directing you to
somewhere else. The material to which it directs you is not the
responsibility of any of our broadcasters just because you watch it on
the same screen.

Rod.